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Trump says he is considering pardon for Edward Snowden

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Re: Trump says he is considering pardon for Edward Snowden

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Well, to pardon someone they first need to pass a sentence, right? This didn’t happen yet, and the process would probably take longer than Trump‘s current term. Can someone who is familiar with the US law system shine some light on this matter?

No, one can be pardoned at any time. I thought otherwise until recently, as well.

Re: Trump says he is considering pardon for Edward Snowden

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I don't think so. Wasn't it common knowledge that the Government had access to emails via ISPs and shredder well before Snowden's revelations? What was revealing, I guess was some of the technical details of how it was being done.

Part of why Google decided to speed up their timeline on encrypting traffic across their internal network is because they learned the NSA tapped into it.

Yeah, I was also there at that time. Again, to me the revelation was not that they were doing it but instead the specific details of how they were doing it.

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He deported Covid-positive people to Guatemala and has worked against the WHO, so... some of them, yes.

This comment is logically inconsistent. If the USA's handling of Covid is so awful, then by definition an infected person would get better treatment somewhere else, like Guatemala.

The USAs handling isn't awful because the treatment is poor, it is awful because infection rates are high. And yes, that is 100% on Trump.

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This single issue is not worth overlooking the rest of Trump and the GOP.

Any single issue, or even combination of several is why I have never, and never will vote.

Please don't vote, with that attitude I'm not sure can ever pick a good candidate.

Re: Trump says he is considering pardon for Edward Snowden

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Also repeal the "PATRIOT" Act while you're thinking about doing the right thing...

Presidents can't repeal laws. Only congress can do that.

No but they can stop enforcement of them as they control NSA, FBI, SS, etc. Even a reprieve from the injustice would be nice and maybe they could even set a precedent that would help democracy and privacy concerns

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> What Trump is trying to do is access the libertarian/tech worker vote. Thats a pretty small niche of voters. Not saying its a wrong assumption, but libertarians are typically a lot more concerned by trade and individual freedoms than whistleblower issues if you were to list up their top priorities.

Everyone has their own pet definition of libertarian. Call it techno-libertarianism if you want. What's clear is Trump has very powerful allies in Silicon Valley and has figured out that he only has to tap the tiny minority of right wing sympathy at Facebook etc and they will let him do whatever he wants. The idea that web companies are liberal and unfair to conservatives is popular and widespread. Appealing to other…

Same with democrat, republican, progressive. I value a lot of the libertarian ideas about freedom of choice, sexual freedom, against interventionism, privacy, constitutional rights (including the 2nd A), however I'm also moderate on social programs and regulations and I'm all for social egalitarianism. I don't think there is a good "group" I fit in but I don't think I'm alone when it comes to techies. One thing that I think people miss is that government should have a lot of self auditing which doesn't happen; like we have a social program, clearly it's failing, so we axe it and try something different. That doesn't seem to happen on nearly the scale we need it to.

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His racism has been apparent for longer than the last 3.5 years [1]. [1] https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-r...

In typical Vox fashion, that article is really stretching to make a point. A few examples: - "Trump Management Corporation" accused of racism, not Trump himself - Trump pays for ad saying “Central Park Five” should be executed. They were innocent. But apparently that's racist? - In The Apprentice TV show, Trump said of a black person “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done any…

He constantly aligns himself with racists and xenophobes and retweets their hateful posts and conspiracies, how is that not racist and xenophobic? He's just cunning enough to not say it all outright and I suspect his lawyers have taught him how to avoid those pitfalls.

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Sure, the most important one. Hasn't invaded any new countries.

He's done his fair bit of missile-ing and bombing. One also wonders why his silence on the Russian contract killing is so deafening...

this narrative was being pushed when there was an effort to pull american soldiers out of the region recently, primarily by those behind the military industrial complex which wants endless war. Russian contracts, if they were real, were a failure as it had virtually no impact.

Separately, the US has been aggressive against Russia on sanctions and other moves, which the media does not cover. US moves against Russia does not advance the narrative which suggest US only does Russia's bidding. Media outlets are being very selective with coverage to push their agenda.

https://www.malaymail.com/news/money/2020/08/10/germany-bris...

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