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Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by m4rtink »

Shivetya wrote: post #140
crazygringo wrote: post #17

I'm excited for transparent OLED's simply so that laptops and monitors will be able to put the webcam behind the display, ~1/3 from the top. Then videoconferencing software can automatically move the image of the person you're talking to so their eyes are roughly centered on that point. And finally everyone gets to make direct eye contact again!

and here I am the simple science fiction fan who sees us closing in on the possibility of having large portions of our phones being wholly see through, so as with OLED televisions you tuck all your electronics at the bottom and the top half is glorious thin and soon transparent screen

Phones in the Expanse are like that. :)

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by dsign »

moneywoes wrote: post #106
KingOfCoders wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've owned a Dell XPS13 which was the crappiest product I've bought in a while. So I'd say the problem with Dell is more inablity vs. malicious intent.

What was so bad about it?

I had one and it was a lemon. It was so bad that I gave it away and got a second-hand laptop to work for almost a year, it made me so much more productive.

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by hnuser123456 »

m463 wrote: post #48
userbinator wrote: post #43

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The thought of a webcam constantly pointing at users has already creeped them out enough to make camera covers a popular item. Imagine how well that segment of the population would react to a hidden camera...

I think one solution would be like a purism laptop (and upcoming phone) - hardware switches (they one for camera/mic, one for bt/wifi)

The camera would be useless until the pixels in front of it are turned off, right? If you see a small "hole-punch" in your screen, the camera is on.

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by tech2 »

MaxikCZ wrote: post #126
Hallucinaut wrote: post #123

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We've bought/had replaced half a dozen XPS13s in the last 18 months and all but one have had to be returned, some are on their second replacement. QA seems to be non-existent

What was so bad about them?

As a counterpoint to that (and maybe it has just been a particular model series), I've had the 9343 XPS13 for 5 years now without issue. The battery life is much shorter now, for sure, but it's been a daily driver for all that time so I'm not so surprised.

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by ginko »

hnuser123456 wrote: post #143
m463 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think one solution would be like a purism laptop (and upcoming phone) - hardware switches (they one for camera/mic, one for bt/wifi)

The camera would be useless until the pixels in front of it are turned off, right? If you see a small "hole-punch" in your screen, the camera is on.

OLEDs can be turned on and off in fractions of a second. The camera sensor could take a picture while the led is off and there’d be no way to tell.

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by skygazer »

m463 wrote: post #50
ChuckMcM wrote: post #2

For a long long time, science fiction movies have used transparent displays to seem more "futuristic." However, actual transparent displays have been underwhelming in practice. This technology is being use by Xaomi to make a "transparent TV"[1] which in theory you will be able to buy. (I realize that not all of these sorts of announcements survive until actual product shipment). It will be interesting to see one of t…

I think it would be nice to have a transparent oled + e-ink display. Sort of an indoor-outdoor display.

Interesting. My Palm V (palm pilot) had a nice transreflective display 20 years ago. It was great in direct sunlight. I often think of that when using devices that can’t crank up the nits enough to compete with sunlight.

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by jp555 »

crazygringo wrote: post #17

I'm excited for transparent OLED's simply so that laptops and monitors will be able to put the webcam behind the display, ~1/3 from the top. Then videoconferencing software can automatically move the image of the person you're talking to so their eyes are roughly centered on that point. And finally everyone gets to make direct eye contact again!

Why worry about better horse bridles (Webcams) when the automobile is beginning to roll out ($300 PC-free VR)?

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by foobarian »

FractalParadigm wrote: post #133
MaxikCZ wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was so bad about them?

Not the person you were replying to, but anecdotally my XPS 15 9550 has been nothing but a nightmare. It's on battery #3 from the battery swelling issue, a lot of backlight bleed on the 4K Display, coil whine in the power supply (went through three of those), three DC jacks (might need to be a 4th soon), the infamous VRM/throttling issue, and to top it all off I had the main board replaced within the first two years…

I ordered a XPS 15 (9570) last year to replace my wife's slow Walmart special. We debated between Mac and Wintel and decided to stick with Wintel due to familiarity and various programs we run. We get the delivery, take it out of the box, plug it in, turn it on... and this horrible screeching noise greets us like someone is cutting a piece of metal with an angle grinder. It was not a shipping bug either, the package arrived in perfect shape.

That pretty much summed up the difference between Apple and everyone else for me.

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by CSSer »

Isn’t a transparent monitor just a window with a HUD? My first thought was that this could have exciting use-cases in vehicles. However, aside from nighttime driving, the relatively poor brightness would likely quickly rule it out. Anyway, for a fun thought experiment, if I were thoroughly reviewing it for use I’d be most curious about its visual clarity when off (and perhaps durability, but to a lesser extent). How exactly does one measure contrast ratios when you have no idea what you’re contrasting against?
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