Remarkable that TikTok is still available on the App Store, despite the risk it poses to national security. I guess Apple and China sleeping together is truly a case of friends with benefits. Maybe Epic Games should please Apple more often?
Epic games kind of Tencent (a Chinese company) subsidiary, it has 40% share.
Apple removes Fortnite from App Store after Epic attempts to bypass fees
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Re: Apple removes Fortnite from App Store after Epic attempts to bypass fees
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Doesn’t Epic take a cut out of every single purchase made of a game built with Unreal Engine? Seems kinda hypocritical that they’re taking this stance when their licensing model is arguably just as burdensome on developers. In my opinion, Epic should not put their app on the App Store if they don’t like the terms, just as they would tell a developer to not use their engine if they don’t like the terms.
If a developer doesn't like Unreal's terms, there are other game engines. If a developer doesn't like Apple's terms, there are no viable alternatives for iOS distribution.
Re: Apple removes Fortnite from App Store after Epic attempts to bypass fees
#373Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn’t Epic take a cut out of every single purchase made of a game built with Unreal Engine? Seems kinda hypocritical that they’re taking this stance when their licensing model is arguably just as burdensome on developers. In my opinion, Epic should not put their app on the App Store if they don’t like the terms, just as they would tell a developer to not use their engine if they don’t like the terms.
If a developer doesn't like Unreal's terms, there are other game engines. If a developer doesn't like Apple's terms, there are no viable alternatives for iOS distribution.
.. not covering the iOS marked is for some products not viable and might literally lead to insolvency in the long run.
Today you can tell people that you don't provide a game on e.g. X Box and they might not like but accept it. But you can not tell people that their premium mail service has no iOs app or that they team meating software has no iOs app or that their app doesn't work on iOs.
Tbh. it's probably somewhat true for tipple A massive multiplayer games and games consoles, too.
Re: Apple removes Fortnite from App Store after Epic attempts to bypass fees
#374This is not surprising to me, and I have to say, I completely agree with it. Epic publicly and blatantly bypassed multiple App Store restrictions with their move today. Surely they were expecting this to happen, so what comes next? Perhaps Epic has been planning a major lawsuit and this will provide them with the reason to launch it? Edit: https://twitter.com/FortniteGame/status/1293984290326433792 They have an entir…
Re: Apple removes Fortnite from App Store after Epic attempts to bypass fees
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I don't think that matters because its clear the end consumer would benefit here if epic were allowed their own payment system.
Do you really think they wouldn’t maximize their profit anyway? Being more expensive in the appstore is just politics.
[0]: https://twitter.com/ballmatthew/status/1293893660493455360
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Game console to General computing device isn't exactly apples to apples. But yes, It'd be great if users could install unsigned apps on all the devices they own.
A game console is not general purpose computing device?
Phone run everything from games over office apps to unlocking you apartment doors or handling the check-in at a hotel (yes some hotels have app based check-in).
(And in the end Apps is just a handy short form of Application, so you could say even the name kinda implicates this ;=) )
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In all the parts of the world I’ve been in, I’ve never seen a gas station without an electronic sign?
You might enjoy a trip to Aru, in eastern DR Congo. The gas pumps were run off of a gas generator!
Re: Apple removes Fortnite from App Store after Epic attempts to bypass fees
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They also just filed a lawsuit (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24147486 ). The strategist in me thinks that Epic Payments is a provocation rather than a product, they've been in touch with state attorney generals about Apple's antitrust situation, and the real goal is to get that lawsuit out, bring the antitrust hammer down on Apple, and maybe get some free PR and marketing from the press cycle.
Epic is tied to Tencent. This is a risky move.
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FWIW brick and mortar stores usually take 40%.
Doesn't seem a fair comparison given the far more substantial costs of brick and mortar. Brick and mortar retailers do not, traditionally, have very large margins when all is said and done, whereas I think the App Store has quite significant margins for Apple.
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But,it's more than that. Not only do I get some security for payment, but I get: * Some level of guarantee that every app on my phone has been vetted (it's not perfect of course, but is better than nothing). It's unlikely that anything to nefarious makes can make it onto my phone, and if it does, it'll be removed. * I get a better fit and finish. Apps on the iPhone very often have a better quality to them. * I get th…
But nobody wants to deny you the choice of paying an extra 30% to get all that. What they want is the choice.