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Re: Belarus has shut down the internet amid a controversial election

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I have some close acquaintances in BY, so this has been hard. We saw that (at least as of 8 PM UTC) outbound connections to HTTP servers wasn't really a problem. A fresh ec2 box with a basic web server wasn't effected. So, early yesterday I set up an OpenVPN server on ec2 (eu-west-1) to try to get some slow but functional internet access. What we saw was that about 15-30 seconds after the TLS handshake the connection…

Do you have a clue on physical location of this middlebox?

Re: Belarus has shut down the internet amid a controversial election

#192
post #34

"Controversial Election"? Now that's an understatement if I've ever seen one... I don't think elections in Belarus have ever been seen to be free and fair.

As far as I understand, the 1994 election in which Lukashenko initially came to power was considered fair and representative of the people's will.

The rest, not so much, however even if we directly compare with previous Belarus elections, this time the election rigging went further than before, turning it into a farce that's not taken well by the public this time.

Re: Belarus has shut down the internet amid a controversial election

#193

I had already commented this 7 months ago when Russia did the same thing. "In the interest of the people everywhere in the world, there should always be dial-up access points available, in different countries. The "national interest", for whichever country, should always be the people's interest; and restricted information has never been of any benefit except for those restricting it" Someone had raised the point tha…

"when Russia did the same thing"

BS. Russia has never done anything like that.

Re: Belarus has shut down the internet amid a controversial election

#194

I have some close acquaintances in BY, so this has been hard. We saw that (at least as of 8 PM UTC) outbound connections to HTTP servers wasn't really a problem. A fresh ec2 box with a basic web server wasn't effected. So, early yesterday I set up an OpenVPN server on ec2 (eu-west-1) to try to get some slow but functional internet access. What we saw was that about 15-30 seconds after the TLS handshake the connection…

Do you have a clue on physical location of this middlebox?

Not sure. My information is largely based on observations made by people that live or have lived in BY. It's sort of common knowledge there that regardless which ISP or carrier you're on there's always one hop in common when traceroute'ing outside of the country.

Re: Belarus has shut down the internet amid a controversial election

#195

I have some close acquaintances in BY, so this has been hard. We saw that (at least as of 8 PM UTC) outbound connections to HTTP servers wasn't really a problem. A fresh ec2 box with a basic web server wasn't effected. So, early yesterday I set up an OpenVPN server on ec2 (eu-west-1) to try to get some slow but functional internet access. What we saw was that about 15-30 seconds after the TLS handshake the connection…

Maybe protesters should set up some mesh to keep the information flow and coordination if the internet will be cut completely.

Re: Belarus has shut down the internet amid a controversial election

#196
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* International treaties and national laws prohibit sending radio signals into the country if the countries government doesn't give you permission. Space ISPs are very unlikely to do so without permission except at the behest of their home government.

Yeah, I continue to be baffled by this argument that starlink et all are going to somehow crack open totalitarian states. There's not a chance in the world of any of these companies risking their licensing and relationship with the ITU. No one is going to be smuggling in ground terminals, let alone macgyvering their own, because the network isn't gonna talk back.

in a small enough country , location could be spoofed perhaps ? Or in the border regions it could be harder to block ?

Re: Belarus has shut down the internet amid a controversial election

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> I don't see how the actions of India create legal precedence in Belarus? It's a precedent for the world ignoring such actions.

I honestly don't think any country in the world cares at this point. There are far worse things world has ignored, I hardly think this needed a precedent.

There's a saying that the good always prevails, so whoever wins is the good side. This is a fight that the people of Belarus have to win right there on the ground in Belarus, because in cases like this the world will just accept the de facto winner as legitimate and work with them, whoever they may be. Any atrocities involved will be condemned with loud proclamations and no real consequence.

Re: Belarus has shut down the internet amid a controversial election

#198

I have some close acquaintances in BY, so this has been hard. We saw that (at least as of 8 PM UTC) outbound connections to HTTP servers wasn't really a problem. A fresh ec2 box with a basic web server wasn't effected. So, early yesterday I set up an OpenVPN server on ec2 (eu-west-1) to try to get some slow but functional internet access. What we saw was that about 15-30 seconds after the TLS handshake the connection…

I don't get how XOR helps here? Isn't this stuff based on timing + length information?

Re: Belarus has shut down the internet amid a controversial election

#199
post #141

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You say the US re Ukraine. It's actually Western European powers, which have dramatically more influence over the situation in Ukraine - they always have, and they always will - than the US does. It's hilarious that people think the US controls every aspect of planet Earth, such that it can just point its finger at things and make them the way it wants them to be. The bipolar response to US capabilities is the amusin…

I still remember the leaked Nuland's call saying "F * the EU" implying that US was the main change agent and the other caller expressing views that EU was too weak to do anything and they had to act. It looks like Russia has learned from that, manufactured consent to get rid of Lukashenko utilizing his weaknesses and expected actions (i.e. unable to resist corrupting the elections, suppressing protests by force) and…

Russian state-controlled TV channels are portraying protesters in a very negative light.

Re: Belarus has shut down the internet amid a controversial election

#200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a clue on physical location of this middlebox?

Not sure. My information is largely based on observations made by people that live or have lived in BY. It's sort of common knowledge there that regardless which ISP or carrier you're on there's always one hop in common when traceroute'ing outside of the country.

As far as I can tell, virtually every network marked BY has a common transit or peer of AS6697 Republican Unitary Telecommunication Enterprise Beltelecom
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