Live data from Hacker News

How Chinese Officials Hijacked My Company

wsj.com

261–266 of 266 posts

Re: How Chinese Officials Hijacked My Company

#261
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is this downvoted to oblivion 5 minutes after posting?

wumao: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

You've broken the site guidelines like this several times already. If you keep doing that we're going to have to ban you. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here.

Re: How Chinese Officials Hijacked My Company

#262
post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wumao: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

You've broken the site guidelines like this several times already. If you keep doing that we're going to have to ban you. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here.

I answered the user's question, what rule was broken? chinese propagandists (paid and non-paid) overunning online spaces is well documented. I even linked the Wiki article about the well-known '50 cent army'. You think anti-china posts being severley downvoted within minutes happens organically? Lmao, ok, if that's the rules around here ban away. Maybe think about what side of history you want to be on while your at it.

Re: How Chinese Officials Hijacked My Company

#263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Saying it's (always?) (usually?) the governments fault is capitalist propaganda. I gather from your post that you may not have much experience with startups or small business on your own, despite where we are. Because all the things you say are hard or impossible or just not done, are things you see daily. People with no IP working around that of others, which is the same problem for you as a foreign company. Peopl…

Actually, I work for a small tech company, and have to work around other people's undocumented interfaces all the time just like everyone else in this industry. Your vision sorta works for software-based startups which are not capital intensive and dominated by labor costs. And I've seen first hand how telecommuting overcomes bad immigration law, allowing people in the west to cut the deals that cannot be done remote…

> Even then, the idea that no good local education is needed and that some body can just get a laptop, read some docs, and start making money is too optimistic.

This is viewing what I said in an impossibly narrow light. We don't need every man woman and child (of sufficient age to work) to be brimming with such initiative and self-agency. Just a subset of entrepreneurial ones who start businesses which bring these factors together and hire others. This happens on both sides of the ocean. If you can't hire the skills you need you train people. It's far cheaper to do in a country where your competition is the pay they get at home on the farm. This is exactly the situation in India. By the way did you see the thread about what a hassle it is to start a business in India?

Only a fraction of Americans work for large businesses. Generally more work for small businesses, so focusing only on giant scaled-up business models isn't even an accurate picture here.

Re: How Chinese Officials Hijacked My Company

#265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One in five North American-based corporations on the CNBC Global CFO Council says Chinese companies have stolen their intellectual property within the last year. In all, 7 of the 23 companies surveyed say that Chinese firms have stolen from them over the past decade. I don’t see this as a minimized fact.

For people which don't beliv it, just visit Amazone and see how many "fake" YYY products are sold which do not only have the same functionality (might be legal) but also have the exact same design, copied from designs of companies where you can be pretty sure they do create design patents for all kinds of things. Worse this look alike fakes are often placed above the original products when you search for the product…

Possibly some products are not clone but made in same manufacturer and badged by different brand.

Re: How Chinese Officials Hijacked My Company

#266
"How can politicians look into TV cameras and say we have a free market system when patents guarantee monopoly incomes for twenty years, preventing anyone from competing? How can they claim there are free markets when copyright rules give a guaranteed income for seventy years after a person’s death? How can they claim free markets exist when one person or company is given a subsidy and not others, or when they sell off the commons that belong to all of us, at a discount, to a favoured individual or company, or when Uber, TaskRabbit and their ilk act as unregulated labour brokers, profiting from the labour of others?"

- Professor Guy Standing

also:

1. The current political economy is based on a false idea of material abundance.

We call it pseudo-abundance. It is based on a commitment to permanent growth, the infinite accumulation of capital and debt-driven dynamics through compound interest. This is unsustainable, of course, because infinite growth is logically and physically impossible in any physically constrained, finite system.

2. The current political economy is based on a false idea of “immaterial scarcity.”

It believes that an exaggerated set of intellectual property monopolies—for copyrights, trademarks and patents—should restrain the sharing of scientific, social and economic innovations. Hence the system discourages human cooperation, excludes many people from benefiting from innovation and slows the collective learning of humanity. In an age of grave global challenges, the political economy keeps many practical alternatives sequestered behind private firewalls or unfunded if they cannot generate adequate profits."

- By Michel Bauwens, Franco Iacomella

Post reply on HN