Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national security law

Post by nouveaux » Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:49 AM UTC

knzhou wrote: post #92

zozin wrote: post #42

The thought of living in a China-centric world during the twilight of my life on Earth (2050+) makes my hair stand on end. I do not want to be treated as a second class human because of the color of my skin or my ethnicity. I do not want to lose business and professional opportunities because I am not Han. I do not want to live in a world where freedom of speech and expression are long lost memories, where even the r…

This is the kind of comment that makes me know there's no hope for HN. The color of your skin has bought you a lot. When you were a kid, my parents were making a dollar a day. When your parents were kids, my grandparents were facing famine. Now, finally, for the first time in all of modern history, a large group of non-white people has escaped crushing poverty. They're not rich by any means. You'd still be richer tha…

Post by Aunche » Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:49 AM UTC

moreorless wrote: post #8

seibelj wrote: post #4

As an anecdote, someone I know is an immigrant from HK and has lived in the USA for many years, and this person is afraid of saying anything publicly against China out of fear. Fear for their family in China and fear for their personal safety even in the USA. Similar to how Russia murders defectors [0], it’s not a good idea to be an expat and criticize China. It is an authoritarian regime, bottom line. [0] https://en…

As an anecdote, I hear people call out the CPC in public places in China.

Post by mtnGoat » Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:51 AM UTC

ktln2 wrote: post #58

seibelj wrote: post #4

As an anecdote, someone I know is an immigrant from HK and has lived in the USA for many years, and this person is afraid of saying anything publicly against China out of fear. Fear for their family in China and fear for their personal safety even in the USA. Similar to how Russia murders defectors [0], it’s not a good idea to be an expat and criticize China. It is an authoritarian regime, bottom line. [0] https://en…

The fear is real - A lot of pro-democracy Hong Kong activists in US are harassed and threatened by PRC government agents, many of them Chinese students studying in US. [1] https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2019/08/30/hong-kong-activist... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/26/us/hong-kong-protests-col...

Post by dqpb » Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:51 AM UTC

knzhou wrote: post #106

ffggvv wrote: post #100

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Before I answer that, you are aware that we casually started two wars last decade that directly killed 200,000 innocent civilians, right? And that we reliably do that every other decade?

Post by Reelin » Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:52 AM UTC

knzhou wrote: post #153

Reelin wrote: post #149

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> he thinks the prospect of there being a single non-white country not being crushingly poor "makes his hair stand on end" As I previously pointed out, that is absolutely not what was said. Please stop making things up. Concern was expressed about the racism against those who are not Han which currently exists in China. The original commenter professed a fear of what that would look like for outsiders in a China-cent…

> The original commenter professed a fear of what that would look like for outsiders in a China-centric world. Yes, and for the third time now: my point is that the absolute worst-case scenario for the original commenter is still miles better than what 90% of the world (i.e. everybody non-white) faces today. The worst-case scenario in OP's book is that China joins the ranks of first world countries, which then go fro…