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A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid

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Post by emj »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #314
mcguire wrote: post #16

" Covid has at present killed less than 6000 in Sweden. It is very unlikely that the number of dead will go above 7,000. An average influenza year in Sweden, 700 people die of influenza. " The average number of people who die of influenza in the US is about 35,000. So we should expect 350,000 deaths and then we'll be all good?

>> The average number of people who die of influenza in the US is about 35,000. What Covid-19 made me realise is that there are tens of thousands of lives we could be saving each year by adopting some simple behavioural rules that definitely do not need to harm the economy. For example, stay home when you have flu-like symptoms, don't touch your face, wash your hands thoroughly, sneeze into your elbow or a handkerchi…

We track Calicivirus seasons in Sweden, I'm still waiting for the final report on that, but there are indications that the Corona scare basically killed the season almost 10 weeks early.

See "Figur 1" https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/contentassets/0ad710ef37...

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henrikschroder wrote: post #235
borvo wrote: post #134

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"Sebastian Rushworth M.D." clearly states at the beginning of his internet post that it's anecdotal, even though his bio suggests he's trying to correct internet misinformation with "science". It absolutely shouldn't be censored. I mean, if I was considering taking this guy's medical advice - I'd want to know about this.

I agree with most of the things in this article, but it smells an awful lot like a planted piece. The name is very unusual for a Swedish person, I can only find three people with that last name in Sweden, and none of them has the first name Sebastian. The image of him in a gas mask is vague enough that you can't identify the person based on that. The blog is a hosted wordpress that only has a couple of articles going…

Also the domain was registered 3 days ago (August 6th). An earlier version, doctorseb.com (which redirects to the website) was registered July 20th.

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

nradov wrote: post #319
YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #313

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The Swedish doctor also has a remarkably cavalier attitude about mortality and I'm willing to bet quite a large sum that he wouldn't be so gung-ho about it if he were 80 years old himself. It is surprising to hear someone who is supposed to care about the bodies and minds of people be such a cowboy when it comes to their lives. If it's not a big deal for people over 80 to die because "quite a few [of them] would have…

The economy is not some abstract separate thing. It is all of us producing the goods and services which make life possible, or at least worth living. We do not have infinite resources. In my old age I hope those resource allocation decisions will focus on giving my children and grandchildren a decent life rather than keeping me alive for a few more months.

Not everyone has children and grandchildren. How does the dreadful arithmetic change for those people? Do they want to be kept alive for a few more months and if so, should they? And who gets to decide?

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Post by pietkuip »

aliswe wrote: post #312
henrikschroder wrote: post #235

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I agree with most of the things in this article, but it smells an awful lot like a planted piece. The name is very unusual for a Swedish person, I can only find three people with that last name in Sweden, and none of them has the first name Sebastian. The image of him in a gas mask is vague enough that you can't identify the person based on that. The blog is a hosted wordpress that only has a couple of articles going…

Henrik I believe you are being overly suspicious. A simple call to KI or wherever he stated he worked would have brought an end to that.

That would not guarantee that the texts on Wordpress were written by a Swedish medical doctor.

I have now tried to contact him by Facebook Messenger, where he has had an account for many years. I asked if he wrote those texts on Wordpress.

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Post by pietkuip »

pietkuip wrote: post #324
aliswe wrote: post #312

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Henrik I believe you are being overly suspicious. A simple call to KI or wherever he stated he worked would have brought an end to that.

That would not guarantee that the texts on Wordpress were written by a Swedish medical doctor. I have now tried to contact him by Facebook Messenger, where he has had an account for many years. I asked if he wrote those texts on Wordpress.

And he confirmed that it is him on the Wordpress site.

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Post by eternalban »

sterwill wrote: post #283
eternalban wrote: post #180

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It's a perfectly reasonable set of questions. Please note I stress that I am commenting on the virus "regime". Is the virus real? I think we should assume it is real, regardless of the facts. Let's say it is real. Should we concern ourselves with whether it is (a) natural phenomena, or (b) man-made; and whether regardless of its provenance, the spread of the virus was due to (a) chance events, or (b) intentional rele…

You asked a lot of questions that seem to imply a lot of conspiracy-driven actions, but you didn't really state any definite opinions or present any evidence that supports those implications. If you're going to "write a little book here," you're going to have to say what you believe and present the evidence for why you believe it.

That is a laughable mischaracterization of the post to which you are responding.

These are legitimate questions that definitively need to be asked and answered in context of a complete workover of our societies, instead of being dishonestly dismissed.

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Post by HarryHirsch »

8note wrote: post #173
Marsymars wrote: post #94

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I hear this a lot, but I've never seen this claim put in context of a comparison to lung function following viral pneumonia from viruses other than SARS-CoV-2.

Yeah, I've only hear about it as a typical result of pneumonia

Yes, but severe pneumonia is what sends COVID patients to hospital. It's a frequent complication, much more frequent than in the annual flu.

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Post by thinkingemote »

chki wrote: post #7

There are a lot of highly problematic claims in the article. This one stood out to me: >Shutting down completely in order to decrease the total number of deaths only makes sense if you are willing to stay shut down until a vaccine is available. That could take years. No country is willing to wait that long. Actually it might very well just be half a year until we have a vaccine. Multiple candidate vaccines are in pha…

> it might very well just be half a year

it has already been half a year.

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Post by biolurker1 »

aliswe wrote: post #311
biolurker1 wrote: post #258

Long term consequences are where it's at. This article talks none of it. Let's hope that Sweden doesn't have heart failure and ground glass lungs for the next decades at high rates. Such a gamble from one doctor.

If you have any info, please share? I don't really get what you're saying.

Google Covid-19 long term consequences

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Post by thu2111 »

adrinavarro wrote: post #273
thu2111 wrote: post #270

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It's hard to disentangle cause and effect though. Countries that were very hard hit also had the most extreme government reactions to it. This can compromise the efficiency of the healthcare system, for example, I've read that in Spain at the peak of the epidemic many nurses and doctors were self-isolating because they'd tested positive, so there was a huge loss of healthcare capacity. Then later on it was discovered…

> "Then later on it was discovered that a lot of positive tests are asymptomatic and asymptomatic people don't transmit the disease, so this just hurt healthcare capacity for no reason" I think it makes sense to isolate anyone who tests PCR positive for coronavirus, right? Also, is it 100% sure that asymptomatic people will not transmit the disease? What if they are just pre-symptomatic? Where do you establish the cu…

No. Why would it? Given how mild almost all infections are, and that doctors/nurses can routinely save lives from much more serious conditions, it's a strange cost/benefit analysis that assumes it's better to lose huge chunks of healthcare capacity than for some people to get COVID.

Asymptomatic is being used as a different classification than pre-symptomatic in the literature. Asymptomatic means you never develop symptoms. Pre-symptomatic means you haven't yet but will. Pre-symptomatic phase is not long though. Typically just 1-3 days, I think, from the latest literature.

Given the tiny window of time that exists when people are infectious and might not know it, and given the very low likelyhood of a PCR test being done in exactly that time, and given that PCR testing has a lot of problems (e.g. triggers even if your body has destroyed the virus), and given that nurses and doctors are pretty important, I can't see it being useful to actively test in hospitals. It's everywhere by now anyway.

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