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A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid

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Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid

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Post by spirobel »

chki wrote: post #7

There are a lot of highly problematic claims in the article. This one stood out to me: >Shutting down completely in order to decrease the total number of deaths only makes sense if you are willing to stay shut down until a vaccine is available. That could take years. No country is willing to wait that long. Actually it might very well just be half a year until we have a vaccine. Multiple candidate vaccines are in pha…

the german gdp is down over 10 percent. A decade of growth is gone because of this failed policy. The young generation will suffer from this for a long time. Seems like the current politicians dont care about our future.

Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid

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Post by refurb »

spirobel wrote: post #5

its time to stop this! I am so proud to see my fellow germans rise up: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=htDrDieOgh0

And this is how it was described in US media.

"A large crowd of far-right groups gathered for a "sit-in" at Berlin's iconic Brandenburg Gate on Saturday to protest against the German government's coronavirus restrictions."

Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid

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Post by spirobel »

chki wrote: post #10
spirobel wrote: post #5

its time to stop this! I am so proud to see my fellow germans rise up: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=htDrDieOgh0

> proud to see my fellow germans rise up: That is (luckily imo) only a tiny minority of Germans. I would be very interested: are the current restrictions really that bad? You need to wear a mask in supermarkets, do you think that's actually that big of a deal?

see my other comment. its not about the masks. the economy got ruined and its celebrated like we won something.

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Post by mcguire »

"Covid has at present killed less than 6000 in Sweden. It is very unlikely that the number of dead will go above 7,000. An average influenza year in Sweden, 700 people die of influenza."

The average number of people who die of influenza in the US is about 35,000. So we should expect 350,000 deaths and then we'll be all good?

Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid

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Post by matz1 »

gnicholas wrote: post #9

Cynical perspective: Trump doesn't want to reopen too fast because it won't be clear by the election (October, when mail-in voting happens) that this was a good strategy. Democrats don't want to reopen too fast because keeping the economy shut down is bad for Trump's reelection chances. Too cynical? Perhaps. But I do think that perspectives like the author's are dismissed too quickly because neither 'side' sees a way…

Sadly what you said make sense. If its true then its likely this will be over after the election.

Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid

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Post by keith___talent »

matz1 wrote: post #3

Its baffling that lots of government still want to continue the lockdown.

The people who wanted power have it now, and they love wielding it. If they relent, the perception becomes that it never mattered in the first place. Lockdown makes them heroes and wise politicians, saving you from something that we know very little about.

Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid

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Post by hootbootscoot »

matz1 wrote: post #3

Its baffling that lots of government still want to continue the lockdown.

It's baffling that you would take this singular anecdotal factually-cherry-picked account of one doctors experience during one nations allegedly ineffective (lack of a) response to COVID as sensible advice moving forward.

For one, his per-capita-death-rates are wayyy off. (1 out of 200 dying? try around 8% in Spain and Italy...)

For 2, yes, it's precisely about slowing the spread 1) giving a chance for emergency services to handle the influx instead of being slammed in one go 2) attempting to quash a given outbreak

So many sweeping generalizations here and so little counter-point to the facts the general public have become well-acquainted with, I'm afraid our Good Doctor seems a bit eccentric and witless writing such a trivializing dismissive blog post.

Let's call him "an outlier" even for Sweden, as travel is not making his strange claims that "covid is over for Sweden" look even sillier.

Covid is not finished for "the world" at large, and it's an interconnected world, and suspicion of "t-cells bearing COVID immunity rather than antibodies" as if the PCR were just a cheap placebo test and no antibodies were detected in prior COVID sufferers (it does detect them.)... this is all making light of what deserves serious engagement.

Fire this man or get a committee investigating his various claims as flippant blogs are not the appropriate realm for such incendiary topics.

Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid

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Post by chki »

gnicholas wrote: post #9

Cynical perspective: Trump doesn't want to reopen too fast because it won't be clear by the election (October, when mail-in voting happens) that this was a good strategy. Democrats don't want to reopen too fast because keeping the economy shut down is bad for Trump's reelection chances. Too cynical? Perhaps. But I do think that perspectives like the author's are dismissed too quickly because neither 'side' sees a way…

>Trump doesn't want to reopen too fast because it won't be clear by the election (October, when mail-in voting happens) that this was a good strategy.

>Democrats don't want to reopen too fast because keeping the economy shut down is bad for Trump's reelection chances.

That's basically a conspiracy theory because the Democrats would need to coordinate this political stand and also conspire with medical health advisors. Unless you claim that every democrat has come to this conclusion by themselves.

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