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Meteoric rise in xenophobia? What are you talking about?
To give one example, there's a clear and measurable increase in hate crimes against Asians at the moment.
Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad
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#42I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer. But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.
This is extremely egoistic post. You, a single individual, can infect tens of persons, without even knowing it, who spread the disease further, and of whom someone will die. Is satisfying your heartache worth starting a chain of deaths? The more people feel like they're a special-case snowflakes who should be exempt from travelling restrictions, the longer this situation is going to last.
Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad
#43I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer. But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.
This is extremely egoistic post. You, a single individual, can infect tens of persons, without even knowing it, who spread the disease further, and of whom someone will die. Is satisfying your heartache worth starting a chain of deaths? The more people feel like they're a special-case snowflakes who should be exempt from travelling restrictions, the longer this situation is going to last.
Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad
#44I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer. But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.
As a bi-national away from my fragile parents, I'm glad governments take the situation seriously and don't get distracted anymore by the constant flow of accusations of "xenophobia" by the self-righteous self-proclaimed "anti-racist" mob.
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#45Travelling abroad this summer is considered by many as stupid and careless. I bought the trip when the numbers were good and when the governments were allowing tourism. I think we may have to travel only when the indicators are green for some time. It was green, it's not anymore.
By the way, some asshole passengers are coughing in the plane.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Meteoric rise in xenophobia? What are you talking about?
Just visit Canada from the USA. Canadians think that Americans are dying in the streets from Covid-19. They're calling the police on anyone with US license plates, harassing people from the USA, etc. The News is running articles that Canadians are fed up with Americans, etc, https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/canadians-fed-up-with-unwan... It's like they don't understand that things are in control and there are well ov…
Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
To give one example, there's a clear and measurable increase in hate crimes against Asians at the moment.
Do you have resources? Your comment is reckless and alarmist.
edit: in case you aren't:
US: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/2120-anti-asian-hate-incid...
UK: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/13/anti-asian-hat...
Australia: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/victoria-urged-to-toughen-hate-c...
Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad
#48Thoughts: Aerosol covid risk is highly likely, meaning that air travel requires N95 masks and goggles (eyes are a known vector). If you are outdoors, dilution of virions happens quickly, especially in windy conditions. UV helps denature RNA quickly as well. Indoor risk can be greatly mitigated with room air purifiers, but they have not been deployed because the WHO hasn’t acted on aerosol risk. (albeit, the deploymen…
Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad
#49I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer. But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.
This is extremely egoistic post. You, a single individual, can infect tens of persons, without even knowing it, who spread the disease further, and of whom someone will die. Is satisfying your heartache worth starting a chain of deaths? The more people feel like they're a special-case snowflakes who should be exempt from travelling restrictions, the longer this situation is going to last.
You may be reasonably comfortable in your situation (as much as this entire situation gets, anyway) but not everyone is so lucky. This is not "special-case snowflakes", just a recognition that people, their circumstances, and experiences greatly differ. I'd argue that almost everyone gets treated "special" at some points in their lives and rightfully so. Always treating everyone the same is deeply misguided as people are simply not the same (equality shouldn't mean "one size fits all for everyone").
Merely travelling wouldn't cause a "chain of deaths", when done with with appropriate precautions and care. That's an extremely wild and panicked exaggeration, and not based on what we know.
Besides, I'm not entirely sure what you're exactly proposing to achieve with your "hard lockdown"; it's already well established that the virus is impossible to contain, and in many ways a "hard lockdown" will make it worse. There needs to be some balance.
Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad
#50I'm right now in a Norwegian plane to come back from France to Norway. There is a quarantine since midnight, which is a good thing. There is a reason that France and Norway do not have the same numbers, French people are pretty bad at taking the covid19 measures seriously. I'm not thinking about the government but the population in general. It's a bit frustrating because it's not very difficult to be careful. I have…
Can't really stop people from coughing, no? It's pretty involuntary.