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Huawei CEO: After September 15 No More Kirin Chips

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Re: Huawei CEO: After September 15 No More Kirin Chips

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Please don't be pedantic, We do not have votes on whether the president should sneeze into a tissue or a paper towel, but yes, the president that decided to go to war was voted in by the majority of the population. Please do not try to push the CCP's propaganda by knocking the United States, it only ends one way, and that is all of us being slaves to winnie the pooh

> the president that decided to go to war was voted in by the majority of the population. “A majority of the electoral college, representing a second-place minority of the eligible individuals casting ballots for Presidential electors”, if you want to be accurate, but certainly not a “majority of the population” or even “a majority of voters in the general election”, and not even “a plurality of voters in the general…

*a majority of the electoral college, representing a second-place minority of eligible individuals casting ballots for Presidential electors, selected one of the two candidates put forwards by the private corporations that decide every four years of a different process to select either of the two candidates, and that are not legally required to hold or respect the results of primaries

Re: Huawei CEO: After September 15 No More Kirin Chips

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post #117

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>why does that matter if the outcomes are comparably despicable How are they comparable? The black incarceration rate in the US is around 2.3%[1], meanwhile the incarceration rate for Uyghurs is estimated to be around 10%-15%[2][3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_St... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_i…

USA has 4% of the world's population and 25% of its prisoners. We are the worst on earth, in the history of earth. No wonder we invented "whataboutism".

"Whataboutism" is such a baffling concept. The fact that it has been invented much less widely adopted is insane to me.

Re: Huawei CEO: After September 15 No More Kirin Chips

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post #117

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>why does that matter if the outcomes are comparably despicable How are they comparable? The black incarceration rate in the US is around 2.3%[1], meanwhile the incarceration rate for Uyghurs is estimated to be around 10%-15%[2][3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_St... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_i…

USA has 4% of the world's population and 25% of its prisoners. We are the worst on earth, in the history of earth. No wonder we invented "whataboutism".

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Re: Huawei CEO: After September 15 No More Kirin Chips

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post #32

Either the PRC has overplayed their hand, or they are up to something. 2020 still has nearly 5 months to deliver more gifts.

The sensible option would be to wait and see what November brings.

That's what Joe Biden is planning to do!

Re: Huawei CEO: After September 15 No More Kirin Chips

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post #117

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>why does that matter if the outcomes are comparably despicable How are they comparable? The black incarceration rate in the US is around 2.3%[1], meanwhile the incarceration rate for Uyghurs is estimated to be around 10%-15%[2][3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_St... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_i…

USA has 4% of the world's population and 25% of its prisoners. We are the worst on earth, in the history of earth. No wonder we invented "whataboutism".

Yeah, if your metric is "percentage of people imprisoned", then yeah, we are the worst. I'm not sure how it's relevant to my reply or this comment chain, which is discussing the treatment of dissidents and ethnic minorities. You and the person I was initially replying to are trying to derail/move move the goalposts to incarceration rate.

Funny you mention whataboutism, because there's a distinct lack of it here. No one here is justifying America's incarceration rates by saying "the other side" does the same.

Re: Huawei CEO: After September 15 No More Kirin Chips

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post #103

What they're not saying is that the Chinese will have to completely shut down many of their silicon foundries because of a lack of specialized chemicals only available from the USA and Japan.

The pressure really must on PLA Hacking Unit 61398 to up their theft of industrial IP. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLA_Unit_61398

Re: Huawei CEO: After September 15 No More Kirin Chips

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post #107

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Yes. But will they then innovate at the same rate?

I think the more you must guard your words, the things you say, watch how you act, and the more you grow up with this as a child? The more restrictive your thoughts may be as an adult. The less 'free wheeling', and therefore, more locked into tight, controlled paths. Further to that, even if the above is not significantly true, there is still the entire "does the work I want to do, the research, threaten PRC dogma in…

Bingo. That’s exactly why I don’t see China surpassing the US or the west anytime soon. They can clone Tesla or Apple as much as they want - but nothing truly groundbreaking will happen, since they have been “inspired” by the west for so long.

Re: Huawei CEO: After September 15 No More Kirin Chips

#138
post #107

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I think the more you must guard your words, the things you say, watch how you act, and the more you grow up with this as a child? The more restrictive your thoughts may be as an adult. The less 'free wheeling', and therefore, more locked into tight, controlled paths. Further to that, even if the above is not significantly true, there is still the entire "does the work I want to do, the research, threaten PRC dogma in…

Bingo. That’s exactly why I don’t see China surpassing the US or the west anytime soon. They can clone Tesla or Apple as much as they want - but nothing truly groundbreaking will happen, since they have been “inspired” by the west for so long.

This racist superiority complex is the pride before the fall. What exactly is TikTok's recommendation algorithms or Huawei's 5G technology cloning?

Re: Huawei CEO: After September 15 No More Kirin Chips

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post #98

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Please don't be pedantic, We do not have votes on whether the president should sneeze into a tissue or a paper towel, but yes, the president that decided to go to war was voted in by the majority of the population. Please do not try to push the CCP's propaganda by knocking the United States, it only ends one way, and that is all of us being slaves to winnie the pooh

> the president that decided to go to war was voted in by the majority of the population. Not actually true since Bush lost the popular vote in the 2000 election.

And don't forget that majority of eligible voters don't vote.
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