I like the trend but one big hurdle will come when we have a partial return to the office. Everyone at work, or everyone remote works well. Mixing office and WFH communication will have further growing pains.
Atlassian tells employees they can work from home forever
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#182One thing that is not often mentioned is these threads is how this is particularly beneficial for European workers. They live in cities that are already small and dense, generally don't depend on the office for their socialization, internet speeds are good (due to density probably) and family life is balanced. Plus a lot of them are already accustomed to working remotely. They 'll probably be able to compete for a lo…
Dang! They’ll take are jobs now and move them over to their low density, high speed internet cities.
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't see the "It's good for you that I hide from the danger and you go out in it" and how incredibly messed up that is?
What are you actually saying? That white colar workers cannot have certain benefits that come with the job because blue collar workers cannot have them? Let's hope everyone can choose the job they want and have the benefits that come with it. I know plenty of blue collar workers that would never want to work behind a desk, and also know plenty who started earning a lot of money at 18. I find your "blue collar victims…
> What are you actually saying? That white colar workers cannot have certain benefits that come with the job because blue collar workers cannot have them?
I'm pretty sure this is what is regarded as "progress" these days... :)
Re: Atlassian tells employees they can work from home forever
#184One thing that is not often mentioned is these threads is how this is particularly beneficial for European workers. They live in cities that are already small and dense, generally don't depend on the office for their socialization, internet speeds are good (due to density probably) and family life is balanced. Plus a lot of them are already accustomed to working remotely. They 'll probably be able to compete for a lo…
Dang! They’ll take are jobs and move them over to there low density high speed internet cities.
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#185I'm noticing we're about 40/60 with more wanting to go back to the office at my midsize company. I'm happily with the 40, but the company is just using this time to spruce up the office just waiting for our return. I find communication and the work being better now then when we're in the office. All the cliques and hallway talk is more online, so I have a better clue what's going on. I wish it would stay that way.
I'd be curious to know the split between newer / more tenured employees. As someone who has just started a new job, the process of building relationships across the company has been much harder than at previous jobs. Even with things like donut and social slack channels, it seems like theres no easy substitution for the types of casual interaction you get while working in the same location.
Agreed with this. I started 2 weeks before my company began the SIP, which itself was a few weeks earlier than the government mandate.
It's been _rough_. I knew going in that I hadn't joined a new company in 5 years, so it'd be difficult. But this has been a whole different level.
Nearly 6 months in now and I still don't feel like I've meshed with the majority of my team, only one or two people who are just extra friendly, and forget knowing anybody outside of my team at all.
I rarely get pings from anyone asking how things are going; I usually wind up needing to do that myself.
I've never been a very extroverted person, but I'd definitely prefer working from an office (in obviously better circumstances) during this period of on-boarding and readjustment. I feel so isolated right now, which is completely opposite of how I think I would have been if I were still at my last role but during this environment.
Re: Atlassian tells employees they can work from home forever
#186The first thing that went through my head when I saw this headline was: "Huh, maybe I should send them a resume." I'm hype if this trend continues.
You'd honestly work for the folk responsible for the BitBucket redesign, or the 6 billion lines of dynamic JS loaded for every Jira page? I'd sooner work the curb while living in a coal bunker
Maybe he thinks he can improve it or that things change. I've worked for MS in the past, it's not a dumpster fire like a lot of open source advocates would have you think. It was a fairly neutral experience, but they certainly have a lot of smart people working for them.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
If all of the white collar workers who are able to work from home and limit exposure to and spread of covid-19, doesn't that help everyone else who can't work from home?
You don't see the "It's good for you that I hide from the danger and you go out in it" and how incredibly messed up that is?
> You don't see the "It's good for you that I hide from the danger and you go out in it" and how incredibly messed up that is?
That would be messed up, but what is actually being said is “Given that you need to go out into the danger, its good for you that I don't go out and needlessly increase that danger.”
In fact, I've heard the exact argument made from the side of workers that have to go out into the danger—whether to deal with it directly because thet are in healthcare, or because they work in retail in essential sectors, or whatever—that out of respect for their safety, people who don't need to be out magnifying the danger shouldn't be.
Re: Atlassian tells employees they can work from home forever
#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
If all of the white collar workers who are able to work from home and limit exposure to and spread of covid-19, doesn't that help everyone else who can't work from home?
You don't see the "It's good for you that I hide from the danger and you go out in it" and how incredibly messed up that is?
Because only Sith think in absolutes. It's objectively positive because there are a lot fewer people out there to get infected and lowers the overall case load for health and other essential workers. Unfortunately it hurts other. There will always be winners and losers.
Re: Atlassian tells employees they can work from home forever
#189One thing that is not often mentioned is these threads is how this is particularly beneficial for European workers. They live in cities that are already small and dense, generally don't depend on the office for their socialization, internet speeds are good (due to density probably) and family life is balanced. Plus a lot of them are already accustomed to working remotely. They 'll probably be able to compete for a lo…
Timezones are challenging between US West Coast and Europe. But, at my company, we do a lot of collaboration between US East Coast and Central Europe--which seems manageable synchronously but is probably approaching the limit where it's fairly straightforward (on a frequent basis).
Re: Atlassian tells employees they can work from home forever
#190One thing that is not often mentioned is these threads is how this is particularly beneficial for European workers. They live in cities that are already small and dense, generally don't depend on the office for their socialization, internet speeds are good (due to density probably) and family life is balanced. Plus a lot of them are already accustomed to working remotely. They 'll probably be able to compete for a lo…
Eh? Why are you singly out europe ? How do you think the rest of the world lives ?