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Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by ergodicity001 »

I saw a video recently where someone was discussing Facebook's "moat". Essentially, among Big Tech, it has the least defensible moat, which I think is true.

https://youtu.be/4SrxqfKn9Bw?t=1605

I think Facebook has very little choice right now. Libra could have been a moat, but it is more or less dead now. They are being cornered into being more pro-conservative, because otherwise their moat (engagement, which is what advertisers pay for) will collapse by the time COVID is done. They need to walk the fine line between proving their engagement and hoping that advertisers would actually want to show ads to the group which is engaged.

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by renewiltord »

1024core wrote: post #23
dangerface wrote: post #19

The title buzzfeed came up with is misleading as the article isn't really about an employee getting fired or their evidence. Its more a general editorial on Facebook and the US election.

Did you read the entire article? The engineer joined the company in 2016 and most recently worked on Instagram. He left the company on Wednesday. One employee on an internal thread seen by BuzzFeed News said that they received permission from the engineer to say that the dismissal “was not voluntary.”

It contains that information over two paragraphs but it took a lot of reading to get there. It doesn't appear to be about that issue at all.

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by jerkstate »

kingkawn wrote: post #16
jerkstate wrote: post #8

It sounds like the issue is that fact-checkers are being overridden sometimes when they flag right-wing news sources. I think that if you asked a right-wing person, they would tell you that many of these fact-checker organizations have a distinct left-wing bias. Maybe they (the fact-checkers) aren’t infallible and get it wrong sometimes?

If the basic work of fact-checking itself justifies removing right wing content the problem isn't the fact checkers.

Well, since none of the overridden fact checks were described in the article (which seems like a failure of journalism to me) we can’t really know. Anyways Facebook is a private company, they can do whatever they want, right?

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by zo1 »

jerkstate wrote: post #8

It sounds like the issue is that fact-checkers are being overridden sometimes when they flag right-wing news sources. I think that if you asked a right-wing person, they would tell you that many of these fact-checker organizations have a distinct left-wing bias. Maybe they (the fact-checkers) aren’t infallible and get it wrong sometimes?

Another aspect is that a lot of non-left, or right-leaning viewpoints have been categorized into "naughty idea" territory, despite a lot of reasonable people holding them. E.g. Things such as: Being against mass-migration from 3rd world countries to the west, wanting racially homogenous societies, removing welfare, building a wall, racial profiling, there being no gender pay-gap, protesting spreads the virus, BLM are agitators, etc. All non-inherently "evil" ideas, but we've moved into a territory where they're seen as hateful and as such the mainstream is primed to attack them. That is now manifesting (or stared in?) the internet, and we're seeing the consequences everywhere as a result.

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by flutterdude420 »

atlgator wrote: post #26
Barrin92 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Molyneux most definitely is an extremist, some choice quotes from the SPLC: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/indi... It's got nothing to do with echo chambers. The response to his memo might have been a little overblown, but anyone who associates with someone like Molyneux makes quite clear where they stand. >makes me wonder if that's the sort of people HN is attracting? I'm not sure about HN,…

As if Southern Poverty Law Center was an objective reference.

They are direct quotes with citations...

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by jhardy54 »

atlgator wrote: post #26
Barrin92 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Molyneux most definitely is an extremist, some choice quotes from the SPLC: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/indi... It's got nothing to do with echo chambers. The response to his memo might have been a little overblown, but anyone who associates with someone like Molyneux makes quite clear where they stand. >makes me wonder if that's the sort of people HN is attracting? I'm not sure about HN,…

As if Southern Poverty Law Center was an objective reference.

They're literally direct quotes. Nice try though.

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by pengstrom »

atlgator wrote: post #26
Barrin92 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Molyneux most definitely is an extremist, some choice quotes from the SPLC: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/indi... It's got nothing to do with echo chambers. The response to his memo might have been a little overblown, but anyone who associates with someone like Molyneux makes quite clear where they stand. >makes me wonder if that's the sort of people HN is attracting? I'm not sure about HN,…

As if Southern Poverty Law Center was an objective reference.

The claims are sourced. You're welcome to present evidence to the contrary.

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by devalgo »

site-packages1 wrote: post #4

I saw this yesterday. There were a shocking number of people bringing up and defending people like James Damore, the misogynist Google memo guy who guest starred on white power podcasts like Stefan Molyneux's. I don't like to be an an echo chamber, but I feel like praising that sort of thing is definitely in the relm of "far right" and makes me wonder if that's the sort of people HN is attracting?

Stefan Molyneux is a pig but your characterization of Damore is low effort and more or less completely wrong. If you read the memo it is a relatively straightforward review of standard Biology and Psychology research. There's virtually nothing controversial in it. If you have issues with it you have issues with science. Which given the "decolonize" science lunacy recently isn't surprising. China is laughing all the way to the bank as both sides of the political divide in the West largely and the US specifically abandon logic and reason for superstition and dogma.

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by mikeshank »

Miner49er wrote: post #11

Facebook seems to have a conservative bias. I've never used it myself though, so I can't completely say. I'm also not saying whether or not they should, but they seem to. Zuckerburg regularly hangs out with conservative political figures, but not liberal or letist ones. [0] They censor the left regularly [1]. Also, is there even any leftist publications in the FB news tab? They let the right slide by on things regula…

The way this year has been going I didn't think I would laugh again. Thank you!

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by JshWright »

devalgo wrote: post #28
montagg wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are from the SPLC’s list of quotes: “I don’t view humanity as a single species...” —Podcast FDR2768, “Collective Guilt for Fun and Profit”, Saturday call-in show, August 9, 2014 “The whole breeding arena of the species needs to be cleaned the f--- up!” —Podcast FDR2740, “Conformity and the Cult of ‘Friendship’,” Wednesday call-in show July 2, 2014 "Screaming 'racism' at people because blacks are collectively le…

Molyneux is detestable but SLPC has no credibility. They recently settled a defamation lawsuit against Majid Nawaz an anti-extremism Muslim reformer who they labeled as an anti-muslim extremist. It's in the same vein as people who call Ben Shapiro, an orthodox jew, a Nazi. It's simply ridiculous hysterics.

Which of the quotes are you disputing the accuracy of?
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