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Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by Miner49er »

Facebook seems to have a conservative bias. I've never used it myself though, so I can't completely say. I'm also not saying whether or not they should, but they seem to.

Zuckerburg regularly hangs out with conservative political figures, but not liberal or letist ones. [0]

They censor the left regularly [1]. Also, is there even any leftist publications in the FB news tab?

They let the right slide by on things regularly though. They don't censor racism. [2] And they apparently have a bias that allows right publications to break their rules.

[0] https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-holding-priv...

[1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/04/24/facebook-whil...

[2] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/facebook-employ...

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by lucian1900 »

site-packages1 wrote: post #4

I saw this yesterday. There were a shocking number of people bringing up and defending people like James Damore, the misogynist Google memo guy who guest starred on white power podcasts like Stefan Molyneux's. I don't like to be an an echo chamber, but I feel like praising that sort of thing is definitely in the relm of "far right" and makes me wonder if that's the sort of people HN is attracting?

It’s entirely in keeping with the class character of HN: labour aristocracy (well paid workers) and petty bourgeoisie (small business owners). That is historically the social base of the far right.

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by zo1 »

site-packages1 wrote: post #4

I saw this yesterday. There were a shocking number of people bringing up and defending people like James Damore, the misogynist Google memo guy who guest starred on white power podcasts like Stefan Molyneux's. I don't like to be an an echo chamber, but I feel like praising that sort of thing is definitely in the relm of "far right" and makes me wonder if that's the sort of people HN is attracting?

You're painting with a very broad brush there. There are a lot of reasonable, good people that would disagree with your interpretations of those people/podcasts/events. I.e. the debate is far from settled, and it should be open for discussion such as we have here on HN.

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by wuunderbar »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #7

It is mildly off-topic, but it is not intended to derail this conversation. Did anyone else notice that Buzzfeednews and Yahoo news gotten somewhat decent ( as in, Yahoo actually had an in-depth analysis that wasn't all talking points ).

Buzzfeed (News) has been doing some decent investigate reporting for a while:

https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/07/the-investigations-and-rep...

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by hn_check »

site-packages1 wrote: post #4

I saw this yesterday. There were a shocking number of people bringing up and defending people like James Damore, the misogynist Google memo guy who guest starred on white power podcasts like Stefan Molyneux's. I don't like to be an an echo chamber, but I feel like praising that sort of thing is definitely in the relm of "far right" and makes me wonder if that's the sort of people HN is attracting?

The only "defense" I saw were against people who were grossly misrepresenting what Damore had said. If you contrive a fiction to push your narrative, expect pushback.

As to what shows Damore appeared on, note that this was after he was fired by Google and pilloried by a large portion of the pitchfork "simplify everything to an easy villain" mob. It isn't surprising that he leveraged the small group that didn't ostracize him.

Damore's essay was horrendously poorly considered. People like Molyneux are effectively clowns playing to an audience that they can monetize. This doesn't change the fact that Damore's core argument was actually fairly reasonable.

The simple reality that every fist-pounding critic needs to grossly misrepresent what Damore said, turning it into some grotesque caricature far detached from truth, is revealing.

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by kingkawn »

jerkstate wrote: post #8

It sounds like the issue is that fact-checkers are being overridden sometimes when they flag right-wing news sources. I think that if you asked a right-wing person, they would tell you that many of these fact-checker organizations have a distinct left-wing bias. Maybe they (the fact-checkers) aren’t infallible and get it wrong sometimes?

If the basic work of fact-checking itself justifies removing right wing content the problem isn't the fact checkers.

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by gettingsnarky »

site-packages1 wrote: post #4

I saw this yesterday. There were a shocking number of people bringing up and defending people like James Damore, the misogynist Google memo guy who guest starred on white power podcasts like Stefan Molyneux's. I don't like to be an an echo chamber, but I feel like praising that sort of thing is definitely in the relm of "far right" and makes me wonder if that's the sort of people HN is attracting?

HN has it's fair share of Damore supporters. Plenty of women haters as well.

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by montagg »

zo1 wrote: post #13
site-packages1 wrote: post #4

I saw this yesterday. There were a shocking number of people bringing up and defending people like James Damore, the misogynist Google memo guy who guest starred on white power podcasts like Stefan Molyneux's. I don't like to be an an echo chamber, but I feel like praising that sort of thing is definitely in the relm of "far right" and makes me wonder if that's the sort of people HN is attracting?

You're painting with a very broad brush there. There are a lot of reasonable, good people that would disagree with your interpretations of those people/podcasts/events. I.e. the debate is far from settled, and it should be open for discussion such as we have here on HN.

These are from the SPLC’s list of quotes:

“I don’t view humanity as a single species...” —Podcast FDR2768, “Collective Guilt for Fun and Profit”, Saturday call-in show, August 9, 2014

“The whole breeding arena of the species needs to be cleaned the f--- up!” —Podcast FDR2740, “Conformity and the Cult of ‘Friendship’,” Wednesday call-in show July 2, 2014

"Screaming 'racism' at people because blacks are collectively less intelligent...is insane." —YouTube video, The Death of Europe | European Migrant Crisis, October 4, 2015

“You cannot run a high IQ [white] society with low IQ [non-white] people…these [non-white] immigrants are going to fail...and they're not just going to fail a little, they are going to fail hard…they're not staying on welfare because they’re lazy...they’re doing what is economically the best option for them...you are importing a gene set that is incompatible with success in a free-market economy.” —YouTube video, The Death of Europe | European Migrant Crisis, October 4, 2015

“...white people will bend over backwards to accommodate you, but when they finally get that they’re just being taken advantage of...you will see a backlash, and that backlash will be quick, decisive, and brutal.” —YouTube video, The Death of Germany | European Migrant Crisis, September 16, 2015

Re: Facebook fired an employee who posted evidence of preferential treatment

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Post by pb7 »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #7

It is mildly off-topic, but it is not intended to derail this conversation. Did anyone else notice that Buzzfeednews and Yahoo news gotten somewhat decent ( as in, Yahoo actually had an in-depth analysis that wasn't all talking points ).

From my basic understanding is that Buzzfeed != Buzzfeed News. News is apparently a well run organization and it’s a shame that it uses the same brand for this very reason.
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