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Re: On Using Twitter

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Post by duxup »

tinyhouse wrote: post #52

The fact that the social justice conversation in America talks only about black people, as this post does as well, shows the majority of people only care about social justice issues when the minority group becomes big and loud enough. I just skimmed through the article (it's long, I don't have time to read the entire thing). I completely disagree about her overall statement. I prefer not to talk politics in my public…

> the social justice conversation in America

On Twitter...

There have been efforts, advocacy, and 'conversation' about lots of such topics beyond just what folks yell about on twitter.

Twitter is a weird little world, and it is not 'in America'.... and arguably there is very little 'conversation' on their either.

Re: On Using Twitter

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Post by aspenmayer »

mayankkaizen wrote: post #37

Earlier I used to follow all sorts of famous twitter accounts and had joined all sorts of (ugly debate). I really liked Twitter in comparison to FB in the sense that it introduced me people of millions types from all over the world. On FB, everyone was already known to me so there was no novelty in what I was browsing. However, later on I realized that Twitter is actually a "outrage generating machine". Everyone is o…

I learned this in the early 90s on BBSes, MUDs, Usenet, and forums, before I even discovered the Web.

Everything old is new again. Twitter is fine. It’s people who suck. Exercise your own restraint and freedom to associate. Externalizing blame is to throw up your hands and to join all the other naysayers in yelling at clouds.

Re: On Using Twitter

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Post by city41 »

mayankkaizen wrote: post #37

Earlier I used to follow all sorts of famous twitter accounts and had joined all sorts of (ugly debate). I really liked Twitter in comparison to FB in the sense that it introduced me people of millions types from all over the world. On FB, everyone was already known to me so there was no novelty in what I was browsing. However, later on I realized that Twitter is actually a "outrage generating machine". Everyone is o…

Like the article states, I think Tweetdeck is more powerful and more useful than normal Twitter. You can see a much broader and deeper view of the topics you are interested in, and see it both at a glance and deeply if you decide to dig in. It's also excellent for watching trends in real time (such as many people tweeting about a conference).

Your normal feed forces you into a much more "all or nothing" approach. Someone who often tweets useful stuff but also lots of noise, you either have to put up with the noise or miss their good stuff. In Tweetdeck, just their good stuff shows up.

Re: On Using Twitter

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Post by duxup »

>Cultivate a good set of accounts to follow

Man I'm so done with that. Even cultivating a group of accounts on say a topic ... they're still people so I get their angry rants about whatever issue. And I respect their right to be a person and tweet about what they want, but that's a double edged sword as far as my interest goes.

I really don't want to see a twitter spat, ever. Even if I AGREE with someone I'm following I don't want to see them act like a child or sort of yell at me / the world whatever concerns them at the moment ... I just don't, it's not helpful, I'm not learning anything, it's just yelling much of the time.

>Who has time for this?

Amen.

Re: On Using Twitter

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Post by duxup »

Zealotux wrote: post #13

I have an honest question for Twitter users of HN: what's the net positive value of Twitter to your life? It feels like using Twitter or not has been an uninterrupted argument for years, even on HN, as if on one end your rational brain knows Twitter is detrimental to your mental health, but on the other end: it's a great dopamine, and outrage dispenser.

A few accounts that act like dedicated "tips".

"Hey here's a quick CSS tip!"

That's about it in terms of positive interaction where I didn't have to eventually prune that account ... but that's about it.

It probably helps that quick tech / CSS tips sort of fit inside the world of a tweet, but nothing else does.

Re: On Using Twitter

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Post by onionisafruit »

Zealotux wrote: post #13

I have an honest question for Twitter users of HN: what's the net positive value of Twitter to your life? It feels like using Twitter or not has been an uninterrupted argument for years, even on HN, as if on one end your rational brain knows Twitter is detrimental to your mental health, but on the other end: it's a great dopamine, and outrage dispenser.

I don’t use twitter, and it seems to me that other OSS programmers who actively use twitter are much better connected than I am. They tweet a new project they’re working on and suddenly it has people trying it out. I don’t begrudge that at all. They’ve put a lot of time into building their reputations. I just wish I could find a way to enjoy twitter so I can get in on that.

Re: On Using Twitter

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Post by alexslobodnik »

Zealotux wrote: post #13

I have an honest question for Twitter users of HN: what's the net positive value of Twitter to your life? It feels like using Twitter or not has been an uninterrupted argument for years, even on HN, as if on one end your rational brain knows Twitter is detrimental to your mental health, but on the other end: it's a great dopamine, and outrage dispenser.

I've learned a lot as result of twitter.

I've been exposed to people and thoughts I otherwise wouldn't have. This broaden my perspective.

Re: On Using Twitter

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Post by prophesi »

Unless your business revolves around social media, there's absolutely no reason to use Twitter. You gain nothing but addiction and frustration, tailoring all of your tweets to the whims of the Algorithm and potential audience.

Re: On Using Twitter

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Post by rgoulter »

pjc50 wrote: post #40
jpistell wrote: post #22

> First, social address: I’m a white, cis, female, straight, abled Stopped reading there

Why?

That phrasing like that is a shibboleth. (It shows the person's beliefs/political attitudes). From that statement, you can predict what the author's statements on various things will be. Or at least, it's unsurprising.

Listening to a variety of viewpoints in good faith is a good idea. Tribal, internecine discussion is usually much more predictable than that, though. I liked the term "internet of beefs" for that.

I do like the idea of recognizing that people are human, and not just political abstractions. But, I can also understand how natural the 'internet of beefs' stuff makes political abstractions the most convenient way of viewing people.

Re: On Using Twitter

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Post by pjc50 »

secondcoming wrote: post #50
pjc50 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why?

Because the author is immediately pandering to the potential twitterati reaction to his article?

Her article. As they told you in that sentence. And their byline.

(I know there's some weird campaign against pronouns but that doesn't mean that all people writing on the internet are now "him")

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