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What is his motivation for this right now? Is it just the distraction of the week or was there a specific incident recently that triggered this?
One factor is that China has had a Firewall blocking all foreign digital competitors and information sources for a long time.
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A good clue is how vague your question is. Should bytedance and tencent be banned because of "ip theft" by "some companies?" no
Bytedance and Tencent are partially owned by CCP. They are not innocent bystanders here.
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Like...China?
Well China does have a valid reason to outlaw Google et. al, because they publicly siphon your data and are not shy about it. Also if you're gonna downvote, provide a reason and counter-point. This isn't reddit and the downvote button is not for "I don't like this".
> Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.
From the guidelines
Downvoting because you disagree has also been acceptable on this site, since basically forever https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171
So does this ban transactions with all of Tencent or just those in relation to WeChat? https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-or... Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction…
And what's a "transaction"?
Tencent owns 40% of Epic Games, which owns Fortnite and the Epic Games store. This might be a symbolic move more then anything, because unless they intend to be rigorous about Tencent’s connections with all these companies (e.g Can’t buy anything on Epic’s store, or make micro transactions in games from companies owned by Tencent), they really are not stopping anything.
Your purchases through Epic or Riot (League of Legends, Valorant) are not seen as ‘direct’ transactions with Tencent.
Basically it’s exactly the kind of grandstanding Trump would partake in.
I wonder if FB will come over the top with a bid.
An important note that nobody seems to be reporting on: this is only possible because Apple and Google have control over which apps are permitted on your device. The US government has no legal authority to ban publishing (including apps) in the US. They do, however, have the ability to regulate trade between the operators of the App Store (Apple) and the Play Store (Google), and app publishers, which is what they're…
That isn't my impression of how the web works. The second your bits leave your LAN, they begin traveling over infrastructure that is owned and operated by another private entity. They could rescind your access at any time, especially if the government orders it so.
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Yes, by mirroring China’s authoritarianism and restricting the freedom of Americans. I’m living overseas and now my government is telling me I can’t use WeChat? Telling me who I can and cannot trade with, etc. Restrictions on trade with China are attacks on our freedom.
It is absolutely within the purview of a Sovereign Nation to decide, within the confines of relevant statutes, what companies are allowed to operate within its borders. Trade restrictions are absolutely normal, and are well inline with established practices. What are economic sanctions, after all, but a restriction on the freedom to conduct commerce?
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Well China does have a valid reason to outlaw Google et. al, because they publicly siphon your data and are not shy about it. Also if you're gonna downvote, provide a reason and counter-point. This isn't reddit and the downvote button is not for "I don't like this".
> Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. > Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills. From the guidelines Downvoting because you disagree has also been acceptable on this site, since basically forever https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171
What is his motivation for this right now? Is it just the distraction of the week or was there a specific incident recently that triggered this?
One factor is that China has had a Firewall blocking all foreign digital competitors and information sources for a long time.
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Thanks, where is the official source?
https://twitter.com/SamAugustDean/status/1291576813685108736 - There's been no official clarification, but an on-the-record confirmation from the WH via a LA Times reporter.