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Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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Please create your socialist utopia and make it work. Why change US and other successful countries?

Never claimed I could or wanted to, just pointing out that it's disingenuous to claim these systems fail in a vacuum because they are inherently flawed.

Or maybe they do fail because they are flawed. And foreign interest weakening them is just a story. People suffer under socialism. Maybe you should liver under a socialist regime before preaching them.

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I don’t understand why this post is being down-voted as it clearly states one of the foundations of socialism. A quick (and very) simplified summary of the traditional socialist perspective is that in capitalism, the vast majority of the population must work as wage-earners (proletariat) to provide the means to sustain their life. A much smaller group of people (capitalists or bourgeoisie) own the means of production…

I understand why socialism appeals to people when they see so much suffering and inequality in the world. What I do not understand is why any scholars would cling to the labour theory of value in light of such things as multi-billionaire startup founders. It should be pretty clear to anyone at this point that all you need is a laptop, programming skills, a good idea, and a lot of luck to become a billionaire. You don…

Which billionaire has turned a good idea into a billion dollars without at least hundreds of employees?

And what of users? The value in social media companies, for example, comes from the number of users, who provide free labor in producing content.

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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That would mean that rich people could just do non-violent crime without any real consequences. The risk to be caught is way too small to outweigh the rewards of those crimes. It would still be a benefit for them in the long term.

The rich already can do a lot without any real consequences. Fines are for poor people. Fines for minor matters should be % based somehow. (I don't know how!) My $150 parking ticket should be their $15,000 parking ticket.

Some fines in a few countries are based on income, most notably Finland, which has issued fines in the tens of thousands for minor infractions like speeding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-fine

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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Fun historical fact, it's from this aphorism that the proverb "measure twice cut once" comes from, because confusion can be supplanted by repetition.

My rule is "measure three times, then cut the wrong side off."

I’ve ribbed colleagues with the measure twice cut once line after screw ups, and I shared this very good retort with them and they appreciated it :)

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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Never claimed I could or wanted to, just pointing out that it's disingenuous to claim these systems fail in a vacuum because they are inherently flawed.

Or maybe they do fail because they are flawed. And foreign interest weakening them is just a story. People suffer under socialism. Maybe you should liver under a socialist regime before preaching them.

Yes, people suffer under embargo. We'll never know how much is scary socialism and how much is pile on effect.

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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Or maybe they do fail because they are flawed. And foreign interest weakening them is just a story. People suffer under socialism. Maybe you should liver under a socialist regime before preaching them.

Yes, people suffer under embargo. We'll never know how much is scary socialism and how much is pile on effect.

I am happy to have this debate in a more fluid channel and with a wider group. May be that's the best way to understand this. HN leaks into wider culture and people here do have voice and impact. So definitely arrange for a discussion for wider participation if you can.

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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but in your direct quote, it clearly says "not-rich, not-white", so clearly the direct quote was not talking about "rich blacks"

The phrase can be interpreted two ways. To simplify this comment, when I say "black" I mean "not white". Easier than to keep typing non-white, etc. You have a quadrant of four categories: 1. Rich and white 2. Poor and white 3. Rich and black 4. Poor and black You are interpreting the statement to refer to "people who are not (rich or white)" - which with Boolean logic expands to "people who are not rich and not white…

> Hence the confusion.

Why would anyone believe that there was confusion? It smells like ideology to me.

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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I suspect we could generalise your law for all of AI work: you can solve arbitrarily hard tasks and yet be nowhere near real general intelligence.

hard task: generate a pile of money in short time. If an AI accomplishs this task, I don't care whether it is general intelligence or not.

AI becomes US treasurer

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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nobody can actually point out 'best practices' even if you implement them in new company. in this case, they literally copied code and that's why there was a case after the email gaffe.

How about stuff like how you set up your automated tests, or the Python project folder structure, or that you always first test the road sign recognition on self driving cars before testing something else. Or you first pretrain your neural nets of lane detection before jointly training for road signs and lanes. I mean you remember the code you wrote and when faced with a similar case you will solve it in a similar wa…

That's the point I was trying to make. You can't really 'catch' someone using the same logic to write similar code.

If I change companies, I am going to write code in the same way and test it in the same way.

It'll be very difficult for my original company to 'sue' me if I were to code for the other company unless I do something like this guy did.

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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> It would be untenable to produce software for profit if any of your employees could walk off with your source code after your investment and set up a competing business selling the same thing at a cut rate. You can still ask your employees to keep things secret, of course. Just without government as your enforcer. What would generally happen is you'd have to sweeten the terms of employment to make sure your people…

All the software you cited is basically server infrastructure software. I suppose that depending on your definition of important, you could say that this is the majority of important software. Perhaps if important includes only what is needed to develop web properties. But there are a lot of people who use software besides web developers. I don't really buy that your list names even close to the majority of important…

Just for reference.

XNU powers every Mac, every iPhone, every i*...it’s the most important software on over 1B client machines.

Linux powers all Android devices. Most important software on over 3B machines.

SQLite is also on all those machines, and integrated in most software you mention.

Almost all the software you mention uses git for VC, including windows.

Thanks for the discussion though, the parent topic is one I’m curious about so good to hear different points of view.

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