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OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by saagarjha »

dylan604 wrote: post #75
shawnz wrote: post #28

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Not all of Apple's features are hits either.. for example, when's the last time you used Dashboard or Launchpad?

I use Launchpad frequently. I rearranged my most common apps to be on one screen. I four finger swipe down on my MBP, and there's my apps. I still use Spotlight search too so I don't have to take my hands off the keyboard. Cmd-tab allows to switch to an app, but the Dashboard view lets me get to a specific window within an app directly from whatever view I'm currently in. 4 finger swipe up, and clickity click, I'm in…

> Cmd-tab allows to switch to an app, but the Dashboard view lets me get to a specific window within an app directly from whatever view I'm currently in. 4 finger swipe up, and clickity click, I'm in the document I'm wanting

That sounds like Mission Control.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by jagger27 »

somehnguy wrote: post #80
runjake wrote: post #74

Hackintoshes are very stable if: - You buy the right hardware. Intel CPU and AMD GPU. Choose Ryzen if you like those and like tinkering and hacking on your OS a lot. And no, it's very unlikely your Nvidia GPU will ever work with a recent macOS. - You use the vanilla method of macOS install. The dortania guides along with /r/hackintosh are all you need. Avoid tonymacx86, insanelymac, and any software with the word "be…

Does iMessage work? My 2015 MBP is showing its age and I would love to build a powerful desktop as I spend 85% of my time working at the same desk. But I'm very accustomed to the Mac workflow and tooling. Years ago when I tried the Hackintosh thing I could never get iMessage to work and that made it a no-go for me.

Yes it does.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by aidenn0 »

my123 wrote: post #65
nutjob2 wrote: post #50

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It's probably 2030 before Intel Mac are no longer usable, which is forever in tech time. ARM seems to be spreading its wings when it comes to high end CPUs at the moment (for example, the 96 core 4 thread ThunderX3) and it's not a big stretch to think that they will become commodity parts for desktops and servers in the near future, especially if Microsoft follow Apple's lead. Given brisk competition and open ARM lic…

macOS arm64 can run on non-Apple hardware using a relatively lightly changed KVM (and the Qemu-side changes are even less intensive than the iOS on Qemu project). However, it doesn't come without compromises on most hardware. What I can enumerate as risk factors for running macOS arm64 in a VM: - ARMv8.1 atomics are mandatory. This excludes Cortex-A72 devices, like the RPi4, and earlier generations. - 16KB page suppo…

How long before Apple has even 1 proprietary extension to arm64 without which macOS won't run? As soon as hw without that extension is EoL, no more hackintoshes.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by saagarjha »

my123 wrote: post #65
nutjob2 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's probably 2030 before Intel Mac are no longer usable, which is forever in tech time. ARM seems to be spreading its wings when it comes to high end CPUs at the moment (for example, the 96 core 4 thread ThunderX3) and it's not a big stretch to think that they will become commodity parts for desktops and servers in the near future, especially if Microsoft follow Apple's lead. Given brisk competition and open ARM lic…

macOS arm64 can run on non-Apple hardware using a relatively lightly changed KVM (and the Qemu-side changes are even less intensive than the iOS on Qemu project). However, it doesn't come without compromises on most hardware. What I can enumerate as risk factors for running macOS arm64 in a VM: - ARMv8.1 atomics are mandatory. This excludes Cortex-A72 devices, like the RPi4, and earlier generations. - 16KB page suppo…

> Rosetta uses an MSR to switch the memory model

Even if you give up on Rosetta, there’s all the other MSRs you’ll need to patch–there’s not a huge number of these, but since EL0 has direct access to at least one of these you can’t just patch the kernel.

> PAC, not a big risk factor, trap once and then patch to the non-PAC variant at worst for instructions that aren't in the NOP space.

You know, I don’t think Apple really uses the backwards-compatible encodings at all. Probably since they don’t need to?

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by [deleted] »

ssijak wrote: post #79
runjake wrote: post #74

Hackintoshes are very stable if: - You buy the right hardware. Intel CPU and AMD GPU. Choose Ryzen if you like those and like tinkering and hacking on your OS a lot. And no, it's very unlikely your Nvidia GPU will ever work with a recent macOS. - You use the vanilla method of macOS install. The dortania guides along with /r/hackintosh are all you need. Avoid tonymacx86, insanelymac, and any software with the word "be…

Dont use Ryzen, virtualization does not work, including Docker and some other apps like Adobe ones are buggy. Other than that I agree. I made a hackintosh a month ago for half the price of what I would need to pay Apple and it is rock solid. Everything works including all wireless features like sidecar, airdrop, etc. Sleep, thunderbold, rx5700xt, everything is working well.

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Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by mrweasel »

raffraffraff wrote: post #32
mrweasel wrote: post #11

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macOS isn't exactly perfect, but I don't know any other desktop operating system that comes even close to macOS in terms of polish and user experience. I understand that Microsoft can't just redesign Windows over night, but I also fail to understand why Windows isn't better. Better as in more consistent and more responsive. As much as I like to consider other operating systems, the reality is that I don't want the ha…

I'd quit my job if they forced me to use Mac OS over my Linux desktop, so it really depends on what you're looking for and how much you are willing/able to customize your interface.

Absolutely true, and I’d probably feel the same about using Windows. For some reason interacting with the Windows UI causes my hand to cramp up.

I have, and do use Linux semi regulary, but I customize NOTHING. I don’t want to manage my computer. The defaults in macOS is sane enough.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by speedgoose »

jonfw wrote: post #45
jfkebwjsbx wrote: post #19

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You can share a monitor between two computers. What do you on macOS that isn't available on Windows? Really curious.

Not OP- but I do a lot of work with containers and orchestration- and being on a Unix filesystem with native POSIX shell is very helpful

WSL2 on Windows is quite nice now.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by R0b0t1 »

breakfastduck wrote: post #27
shawnz wrote: post #24

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Are you primarily a mac OS user? I am primarily a Windows user and when I occasionally have to use mac OS, I find myself regularly facing many seemingly inconsistent behaviors that really surprise me. I'm inclined to think it is a matter of familiarity more than anything.

This is likely a huge part of it. I'm primarily macOS but have a LOT of experience with Windows. I still feel like I'm fighting against Windows to do anything. I just think different people are suited to different workflows & macOS and Windows are very very different to each other.

Having done dev on OSX you are going to be constantly fighting the machine. Apple is worse about walled gardens than MS is. With Apple, you need to do exactly what they want or you will have pain.

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Post by FuckButtons »

breakfastduck wrote: post #27
shawnz wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you primarily a mac OS user? I am primarily a Windows user and when I occasionally have to use mac OS, I find myself regularly facing many seemingly inconsistent behaviors that really surprise me. I'm inclined to think it is a matter of familiarity more than anything.

This is likely a huge part of it. I'm primarily macOS but have a LOT of experience with Windows. I still feel like I'm fighting against Windows to do anything. I just think different people are suited to different workflows & macOS and Windows are very very different to each other.

I find the opposite, every time I find myself using Mac OS I find myself fighting to try and do things that should be easy but are instead convoluted.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by speedgoose »

gburdell3 wrote: post #72
solitus wrote: post #52

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I'm looking at doing the same thing. I've been struggling with my PC all week. Second time this year, usually the only good avenue for a fix is to format and re-install Windows... I've had enough. My Macbook Pro 2015 has been doing just fine for 5 years and is currently doing great with a new battery. So I'm almost officially a console guy now QQ, guess I'm getting too old for this sh!t.

I just wish console games supported keyboard/mouse controls. Playing FPS games on a controller is painful.

Another problem is the latency of many TVs.
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