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OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by 0x10c0fe11ce »

reimertz wrote: post #13
blackhaz wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why bother with Mac? I've just built a Xeon E5-2640 using a Chinese X79 motherboard. NMVe, proper Radeon RX580 GPU - in an open build test bench frame. All in all, something like $250 on eBay for everything. Runs the games I like well and looks great on the table, especially with two big red LED fans in front. :-)

This is a very fair question. For me, the reason for a hackintosh is just that I am tired of all the cables and having to swap between the two setups (like having one monitor for working, and one for gaming) while utilizing the performance when working. I also want to utilize my iCloud Drive symlinking hacks to sync files / dotfiles between systems. My gaming rig is currently running i4790k with a fairly decent mothe…

Sounds like you should get a monitor with built in support for KVM. I can do that on my Benq PD2700U.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by Nursie »

blackhaz wrote: post #3
reimertz wrote: post #2

I bought an EGPU 1.5 years ago with the idea of replacing my gaming computer with my MacBook Pro running Windows. But due to the limitations of Thunderbolt 3 and the throughput from my enclosure, I cannot get consistent frame rates which is critical for playing fast-paced competitive games like Apex legends. It really sucks and this point, my $1000 EGPU is currently acting as a fancy adapter + charger + enabling smoo…

Why bother with Mac? I've just built a Xeon E5-2640 using a Chinese X79 motherboard. NMVe, proper Radeon RX580 GPU - in an open build test bench frame. All in all, something like $250 on eBay for everything. Runs the games I like well and looks great on the table, especially with two big red LED fans in front. :-)

I was going to ask if that wasn't as loud as hell.

But it looks like the 2640 is a 65W part, so not excessive. Huh, not a bad buy for a few bucks, looks like you could get a 6C/12T board and cpu for about £60 from ebay.

(I don't need more computers, I don't need more computers...)

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by Shihan »

reimertz wrote: post #2

I bought an EGPU 1.5 years ago with the idea of replacing my gaming computer with my MacBook Pro running Windows. But due to the limitations of Thunderbolt 3 and the throughput from my enclosure, I cannot get consistent frame rates which is critical for playing fast-paced competitive games like Apex legends. It really sucks and this point, my $1000 EGPU is currently acting as a fancy adapter + charger + enabling smoo…

I ran the same route as you, and bought a eGPU enclosure and a GTX 1060 some years ago but then gave up after it frustrated me enough. Well it didn't work that bad but I had the feeling that OSX wasn't as stable as in the past and I was mostly using Windows 10 at work anyway (Visual Studio for SharePoint development) so I switched back after 6 years of using a Mac to a PC and haven't regretted it. Windows 10 works great, there is WSL or I can run ubuntu on a Hyper-V or VBox. The only thing I directly missed are Final Cut Pro X - but I now use DaVinci Resolve and Garage Band (I now use LMMS).

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by shawnz »

mrweasel wrote: post #11
breakfastduck wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people just greatly prefer using macOS over windows or linux and don't want their entire computer experience to be windows just because they play games now and then.

macOS isn't exactly perfect, but I don't know any other desktop operating system that comes even close to macOS in terms of polish and user experience. I understand that Microsoft can't just redesign Windows over night, but I also fail to understand why Windows isn't better. Better as in more consistent and more responsive. As much as I like to consider other operating systems, the reality is that I don't want the ha…

Are you primarily a mac OS user? I am primarily a Windows user and when I occasionally have to use mac OS, I find myself regularly facing many seemingly inconsistent behaviors that really surprise me. I'm inclined to think it is a matter of familiarity more than anything.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by breakfastduck »

mrweasel wrote: post #11
breakfastduck wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people just greatly prefer using macOS over windows or linux and don't want their entire computer experience to be windows just because they play games now and then.

macOS isn't exactly perfect, but I don't know any other desktop operating system that comes even close to macOS in terms of polish and user experience. I understand that Microsoft can't just redesign Windows over night, but I also fail to understand why Windows isn't better. Better as in more consistent and more responsive. As much as I like to consider other operating systems, the reality is that I don't want the ha…

I bought a gaming pc a few years back with the intention of using it for gaming only, and continuing to use my aging macbook for literally everything else.

The macbook hard drive died and so I decided to try to use the PC as the daily driver.

There are many reasons for it, but it boils down to the fact that I enjoy using macOS and I don't enjoy using Windows.

If I'm not enjoying using a piece of tech, it's not worth the investment - regardless of price.

Yes, Macs are expensive, but I don't mind paying more money to get an experience I actually enjoy. That to me is value, and why mac / pc benchmarks and price / performance comparisons are irrelevant to me as a person.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by breakfastduck »

jfkebwjsbx wrote: post #19
reimertz wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very fair question. For me, the reason for a hackintosh is just that I am tired of all the cables and having to swap between the two setups (like having one monitor for working, and one for gaming) while utilizing the performance when working. I also want to utilize my iCloud Drive symlinking hacks to sync files / dotfiles between systems. My gaming rig is currently running i4790k with a fairly decent mothe…

You can share a monitor between two computers. What do you on macOS that isn't available on Windows? Really curious.

It's not always about what you do, but what tools you use to do it.

I don't want my fundamental tool to be windows because I don't enjoy using it for hundreds of reasons - there's really not much more to it for me.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by breakfastduck »

shawnz wrote: post #24
mrweasel wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

macOS isn't exactly perfect, but I don't know any other desktop operating system that comes even close to macOS in terms of polish and user experience. I understand that Microsoft can't just redesign Windows over night, but I also fail to understand why Windows isn't better. Better as in more consistent and more responsive. As much as I like to consider other operating systems, the reality is that I don't want the ha…

Are you primarily a mac OS user? I am primarily a Windows user and when I occasionally have to use mac OS, I find myself regularly facing many seemingly inconsistent behaviors that really surprise me. I'm inclined to think it is a matter of familiarity more than anything.

This is likely a huge part of it.

I'm primarily macOS but have a LOT of experience with Windows.

I still feel like I'm fighting against Windows to do anything. I just think different people are suited to different workflows & macOS and Windows are very very different to each other.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by shawnz »

simonh wrote: post #17
mrweasel wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

macOS isn't exactly perfect, but I don't know any other desktop operating system that comes even close to macOS in terms of polish and user experience. I understand that Microsoft can't just redesign Windows over night, but I also fail to understand why Windows isn't better. Better as in more consistent and more responsive. As much as I like to consider other operating systems, the reality is that I don't want the ha…

Windows went down a six year long dead end with 8.x trying to be both a desktop and a phone/tablet OS at the same time, while also doing it twice as fast as was actually feasible and without taking the time to think it through, in an attempt to catch up with iOS. Windows 10 actually doesn't seem too bad, except for the vestigial Metro crap. Power Shell looks interesting. They seem to have worked out what to do with .…

Not all of Apple's features are hits either.. for example, when's the last time you used Dashboard or Launchpad?

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by nhojb »

I'll give a big vote of thanks to the OpenCore developers.

Clover had constant stability problems during boot on my hardware (Coffee Lake, Z390), but OC has been stable since day one (v0.5.6 IIRC). I've not had a single issue since switching.

Also the documentation is second to none.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by breakfastduck »

shawnz wrote: post #28
simonh wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows went down a six year long dead end with 8.x trying to be both a desktop and a phone/tablet OS at the same time, while also doing it twice as fast as was actually feasible and without taking the time to think it through, in an attempt to catch up with iOS. Windows 10 actually doesn't seem too bad, except for the vestigial Metro crap. Power Shell looks interesting. They seem to have worked out what to do with .…

Not all of Apple's features are hits either.. for example, when's the last time you used Dashboard or Launchpad?

Completely true, but there are way more hits than misses on macOS. Dashboard no longer ships with the OS. Launchpad is useless to me but I can completely forget it exists & never use it.

I think the issues windows has had over the years come down to the fact that the 'misses' they've had are core parts of the OS that you can't avoid using.

I do genuinely think Windows 10 is the best version of windows though, and with WSL they're definitely headed in the right direction.

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