Does the fact that Google and Microsoft have Indian CEOs, Sundar / Satya respectively, give them an advantage when dealing with the Indian market? Especially when considering the fact this pronounced interest in Jio is largely just as a way to enter into negotiations with the owners of the Indian market/government.
They might be wrong caste to matter in any negotiations? also https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3azjp5/silicon-valley-has...
What is Jio, and why are tech’s biggest players suddenly obsessed with it?
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#12Oh dear...
Re: What is Jio, and why are tech’s biggest players suddenly obsessed with it?
#13Because the largest market for growth these entities have outside of China, is India. The middle classes want the goodies, and these players want the income. Jio has the market.
And more importantly choke-hold over the government bureaucracy. They can essentially bulldoze government over any rules and regulations, and bribe around freely. This is how Reliance got big.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
They might be wrong caste to matter in any negotiations? also https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3azjp5/silicon-valley-has...
That very article: "Sundar Pichai, the CEO of Google, and Satya Nadella, the CEO of Microsoft, are both Indian immigrants who come from the higher Brahmin caste"
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#15I wonder how the work culture inside Jio is. Reliance (Petro-refinery side) is one of the "core companies" for Chemical Engineers but after a summer internship, students didn't seem interested in pursuing employment there unless there was no option left. These companies used to be derogatorily referred to as 'Lala companies' based on the heredity CEOship. (Lalas typically are merchant class of India, who pass on thei…
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#16Because the largest market for growth these entities have outside of China, is India. The middle classes want the goodies, and these players want the income. Jio has the market.
And more importantly choke-hold over the government bureaucracy. They can essentially bulldoze government over any rules and regulations, and bribe around freely. This is how Reliance got big.
It completely ignores the real stories in technology and development which make people invest.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
And more importantly choke-hold over the government bureaucracy. They can essentially bulldoze government over any rules and regulations, and bribe around freely. This is how Reliance got big.
I think this is about as useful as observing Boeing has a lock on the US government and distorts the market with Airbus. It completely ignores the real stories in technology and development which make people invest.
Read the book "The Polyester Prince". The Ambani's got it banned in India.
It's an open secret that the Ambani's are the most corrupt family in India.
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#18Is Jio still using and building on KaiOS, their fork of FirefoxOS, the javascript-based mobile OS? I'd love to read the story behind that and where it's going next. Are their contributions open source?
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#19Because the largest market for growth these entities have outside of China, is India. The middle classes want the goodies, and these players want the income. Jio has the market.
And more importantly choke-hold over the government bureaucracy. They can essentially bulldoze government over any rules and regulations, and bribe around freely. This is how Reliance got big.
if you do your due diligence companies like Reliance (Dhirubhai Ambani) are the reason most honest smart Indians are fleeing the country
From things like bribing the government at city and state levels, to 'disappearing competitors' to going after competitors with the sole purpose of killing them off
Of course, now with what is happening with TikTok you could argue US is fast becoming the same
you can just buy Government influence instead of having to compete
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#20Does the fact that Google and Microsoft have Indian CEOs, Sundar / Satya respectively, give them an advantage when dealing with the Indian market? Especially when considering the fact this pronounced interest in Jio is largely just as a way to enter into negotiations with the owners of the Indian market/government.
Both grew up in India before migrating to US so understand India very well
In reality
Sundar Pichai - no
Satya Nadella - yes. This guy is a @#$#$ genius. And Indians have a lot of respect for smart people who deliver results
So, Indian Goverment is not owned by Reliance
However, all things being equal Indian Government would prefer an Indian company like Reliance owns the keys to the kingdom, rather than some imperialist cunt like Bezos or Zuckerberg
So now these imperialist companies have no choice but to team up with Reliance
Bezos' plans in India are screwed, though, by the way
WalMart/Flipkart was good competition and still #1
However, JioMart is basically as vicious and happy to do illegal things as Bezos and he has all the connections in India
So India can be written off completely for Amazon retail
Bezos' only choice now is to partner with Ambani as a small stakeholder