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Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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> Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0; blocking redirect trackers by default Isnt that what is used with Google Search? For example if you go here: https://www.google.com/search?q=sunday the first result appears to be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday but its really: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

Go to uBlock Origin and add these to My Filters https://pastebin.com/M6Jah286

Thank you!

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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> wouldn't I just help create another all powerful gatekeeper? No. The biggest claim of Brave is that all of the information for ad matching is in the browser. So they can not control it. The only thing that Brave can control at the moment is the on-boarding ramps - i.e, if you want to take your BAT out of their wallet and to your own, you need to go through KYC via Uphold.com. But you can pay and contribute BAT to o…

Could Brave not impose content restrictions on publishers just like app stores?

On the publishers? I honestly don't see how they would. As far as I know, they are blind on all transactions and none of their channels that publishers can use to register to receive BAT have any kind of declared ToS.

In any case, it seems like you are just looking for a way to rationalize your current behavior. I only mentioned Brave because it is the first strong offering for an alternative to the ad-based economy. If for whatever reason Brave stops being a valid alternative, there is nothing holding you to it. Why not try it for yourself?

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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I've been treated with endless Google Captchas with that setting, and they get very difficult with each passing day, never mind the time-sink.

I use buster. It fetchs the audio captcha and sends it back to google for speech recognition: https://github.com/dessant/buster

This just made me snort, I think it's comic genius.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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I keep encouraging people to use Firefox over the others. My efforts keep failing. Mozilla’s focus on privacy is important and should be to others. People have been burned in the past and are willing to give up privacy for something that just works. The irony.

Do people think Firefox doesn't work? I've noticed zero difference between using Firefox and Chrome and I've used both daily for five years or so.

I suspect the problem is that firefox sometimes performs poorly. But most power users don't see this problem because they either have firefox when it performs well or because they have a powerful computer.

For reasons I cannot understand, firefox on my 8GB RAM windows surface eats up huge amounts of memory. But it uses very little RAM with the same profile on my much more powerful desktop.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Wow didn't know that. Do you have a source? How do they decide which captcha is harder ?

The parent used wrong phrasing but it's real. The captchas don't become harder to solve but longer. If Google detects you're blocking trackers (or possibly cookies) it will throw at you an huge number of captchas until you give up. Imagine having to click like 12 panels of street lights, cars, bicycles, trucks, buses, etc. sometimes multiple times. This is getting out of control, really. I miss so much the Web 1.0 fr…

What I do on captchas is to hit the skip button until it would prompt you to verify. You can try if this could help. Captchas should be tone down to something bareable. I even got to a point that I'll drop the site because of this.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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I've been treated with endless Google Captchas with that setting, and they get very difficult with each passing day, never mind the time-sink.

I use buster. It fetchs the audio captcha and sends it back to google for speech recognition: https://github.com/dessant/buster

Buster's readme says they need resistFingerprinting set to false

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Anecdotal, but I've pushed close friends who are reasonably technical to install an ad blocker. Without my urging, they wouldn't have had one at all. When I come across someone who doesn't adblock, it surprises me, but it really shouldn't, as it seems most people don't have an ad blocker.

I still don't use an ad blocker. I know all the arguments for ad blocking and I agree with many of them. I know what difference it makes in terms of performance and annoyance. But I just can't bring myself to indiscriminately block all ads, knowing how important they are as a funding source for the websites I use. There's only one thing that destroys privacy even more thoroughly than ad targeting: payment.

> There's only one thing that destroys privacy even more thoroughly than ad targeting: payment.

Can you expand? Because I disagree. I would rather a company have my name, payment info, and email address than all those things plus other personally identifying information. I feel like a payment model decentralizes the issue and that I would not be tracked around the web. I don't need the WaPo to know the other sites I've been on, what my political affiliations are, my age, gender, etc. This is because I don't see the issue as companies know who I am, but rather that I don't like that companies have intimate details of who I am, or maybe more simply put "who I am vs what I am." To me the latter (tracking) is invasive, the former (payment) is consensual. As one might say "just shut up and take my money."

But I am open and interested to differing opinions.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Hi! We at Mozilla certainly don't see that! I'm at 815 tabs in this window alone and switching is instantaneous. Did you happen to file a bug report about this atypical behavior?

"Hi! We at Mozilla certainly don't see that! I'm at 815 tabs ..." Sorry ... hijack ... Could you please implement a special: settings://tabs ... URL that just gives a plaintext list of tab URLs currently open ? As it stands, the only way to get this list is to poke around in /Library/ files and then use JSON command line tools to export ... etc., etc. I just want a built-in page that gives me all the URLs of current…

That's a great idea but it's wildly outside my wheelhouse! Our bug tracker is here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org

FWIW this sounds super easy to do within an extension: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/Web...

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Anecdotal, but I've pushed close friends who are reasonably technical to install an ad blocker. Without my urging, they wouldn't have had one at all. When I come across someone who doesn't adblock, it surprises me, but it really shouldn't, as it seems most people don't have an ad blocker.

I wish we could block targeted ads, and just those. I know that almost all ads are targeted today, since they're oh-so-much more effective (according to ad network operators). At least, we should make a distinction wrt targeted ads vs content-based ads in discussions on HN.

This is a big part how I feel. I do not mind ads in the way DDG does them or how my podcasts/YouTube (as part of the video, not YT ads) do them. Even though these are target, based on search criteria or an interest given the specific podcast/video, but I feel uncomfortable being tracked around the web and being served ads that way. I believe there are also a lot of ethical questions about how they are used. [0]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wVPyiyukQc

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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I'm happy to see stuff like this. I'd be even happier if the tricks to get video to play were somehow canceled. I have adblocker and video blockers, but somehow, news sites have a video that plays. If I scroll off the page, the video pops out into the lower right hand of the page and resumes playing, even if the big version of the video at the top of the page was stopped /paused (which it is by default), and it needs…

Video players, or at least media files themselves, are often hosted on a separate domain. You have to find it in uBO and block it.
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