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Those are prisoners.
If those are "only" prisoners, then it should be okay to let foreign inspectors in and talk to the "prisoners", shouldn't it?
I've been wondering how I could bring this up with the mainland Chinese I know. It's particularly difficult, because for some of them I'm in a supervisory/managerial role, but I don't want to put pressure on them, which would raise all sort of other ethical dilemmas and would likely not be effective. Anyone else can share experiences?
This is a problem to be handled at the diplomatic level between govts, by govts concerned about human rights abuses using various forms economic and diplomatic leverage and pressure to effect change. You can pressure your own govt to do that if want.
This is disgusting. Even in Ad Seg in a Texas prison, with the most violent schizophrenic inmates, you can't be handcuffed to a bed. To treat people like this based on their ethnicity is beyond the pale.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/24/shackled-pre...
https://www.pix11.com/news/coronavirus/rikers-inmate-with-co...
https://www.aclu.org/blog/prisoners-rights/solitary-confinem...
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/force-feeding-pris...
As an American, as terrible as the Chinese actions against the Uighurs in Xinjiang are I still feel we should prioritize ending our nearly twenty year long war in neighboring Afghanistan. We've created millions of refugees, caused over a hundred thousand people to die, and committed numerous human rights violations. Yet the press coverage it gets mostly centers around how we dropped the "mother of all bombs" on them…
> As an American, as terrible as the Chinese actions against the Uighurs in Xinjiang are I still feel we should prioritize ending our nearly twenty year long war in neighboring Afghanistan. I think it's a false choice, because there is nothing a citizen one can do for either that inhibits doing the other; they are complementary, rather than conflicting, goals.
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You're completely right, but it's not going to stop the campaign against China, because human rights are not the issue. If it was, people would be out in the streets protesting all day against business done with Saudi Arabia. And people would also protest daily against the human rights violations perpetrated by the US around the world (the UN hasn't lift a finger about that either). The whole goal of the campaign is…
Plenty of people are protesting against business with Saudi Arabia. The reason you see so much anti-China sentiment is likely a result of China having managed to become a part of the lives of people in western countries. Oil states play a huge role in the lives of people who follow football due to UAE/Qatar having ownership of large clubs, similarly, there have been a lot of protests with regard to the 2022 FIFA Worl…
As fellow humans, there is no way to look at this situation and find something positive. The actions of the CCP need to be condemned. If you disagree with this point, we are fundamentally at odds. To those complaining about the anti-China narrative, it's the CCP (government) which are at fault, not the people. I think we should always make it very clear that it's not the Chinese people we take issue with and we are n…
> To those complaining about the anti-China narrative, it's the CCP (government) which are at fault, not the people What would you say if the people widely supported it? Do you have evidence otherwise? Most mainlanders don't seem to care at all, that's pretty common knowledge and not some fear of speaking out issue. There's plenty of online forums where they anonymously express themselves and widely mock and criticis…
Look at Trump, who is currently attempting to push an anti-China narrative in the US, but still gave Xi Jinping the green light to build camps for the Uighurs, and said it was "exactly the right thing to do." [1]
Should we judge them? Are they our enemy? I don't know. But this seems to be a systematic bias that pervades humanity in general.
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If those are "only" prisoners, then it should be okay to let foreign inspectors in and talk to the "prisoners", shouldn't it?
It is honestly not unthinkable that the poster above is somehow acting as some CCP agent trying to push the Chinese agenda across the web.
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Already happened many times. A recent example is the BLM protests that took place all over the world. There has also been a lot of protests against Trump, including the famous baby balloon that was seen during his UK visit.
You are mistaken, BLM around the world is not a protest against the US, it is a protest for better treatment of black people everywhere. People in the occident don't have guts to protest the US, unless it is coming from some left wing party that is then viewed as extremist.
It’s also ridiculous to believe other western countries don’t have the guts to protest the US considering the largest protests in recent years (in western countries) have involved USA (primarily BLM and Trump) rather than China.
> His uncle ... believes the video could galvanise public opinion in the same way that footage of the police treatment of George Floyd became a powerful symbol of racial discrimination in the US. The worrying thing is, protests like those for George Floyd won't be possible to happen within China, and even if they happen overseas, most people inside China won't even be aware of them. With the information control in pl…
Hopefully some people start to feel a little bit embarrassed over there reactions and support of violent riots.
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You are mistaken, BLM around the world is not a protest against the US, it is a protest for better treatment of black people everywhere. People in the occident don't have guts to protest the US, unless it is coming from some left wing party that is then viewed as extremist.
I’m afraid you’re mistaken. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter . There are also many western countries that don’t have a problem with police brutality and racially motivated violence against black people who still took the streets to show solidarity with the African-American people. It’s also ridiculous to believe other western countries don’t have the guts to protest the US considering the largest prot…