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Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by m12k »

winter_blue wrote: post #159
typon wrote: post #130

My friend who works in an adtech company: "Protip: Use Firefox instead of Chrome. We get very little data from Firefox users"

I've gone back and forth between Firefox and Chrome. It's just that Firefox is noticeably slower than Chrome (or at least was about a year ago). Even simply switching between open tabs around what feels like 0.5 seconds , whereas on Chrome, tab switching is instantaneous. I've run Firefox in multi-process mode (since that was an option), but even with it, in general it seems like Firefox gets noticeably slower than C…

Are you on macOS? I held off on switching until a rendering optimization landed a bit less than a year ago, which brought Firefox up to par with Chrome.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by rsync »

jdashg wrote: post #173
winter_blue wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've gone back and forth between Firefox and Chrome. It's just that Firefox is noticeably slower than Chrome (or at least was about a year ago). Even simply switching between open tabs around what feels like 0.5 seconds , whereas on Chrome, tab switching is instantaneous. I've run Firefox in multi-process mode (since that was an option), but even with it, in general it seems like Firefox gets noticeably slower than C…

Hi! We at Mozilla certainly don't see that! I'm at 815 tabs in this window alone and switching is instantaneous. Did you happen to file a bug report about this atypical behavior?

"Hi! We at Mozilla certainly don't see that! I'm at 815 tabs ..."

Sorry ... hijack ...

Could you please implement a special:

settings://tabs

... URL that just gives a plaintext list of tab URLs currently open ?

As it stands, the only way to get this list is to poke around in /Library/ files and then use JSON command line tools to export ... etc., etc.

I just want a built-in page that gives me all the URLs of current tabs. I could then cut and paste them, or save the page, as I see fit.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by tastefulness »

shostack wrote: post #210
ffpip wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love uMatrix. It removes all annoyances like customer support popups, chat bots, basically anything other than the main domain. It is high maintainance, only if you visit many new sites every day. For a single site/domain, set it once and go. There are built in 'recipes' allowing YT embeds, twitter embeds, google capthas if a site wants it. Once you globally whitelist CDN's (cloudflare and others), it's enough. For…

What are these recipes? Video embeds and captchas are my biggest headaches with it now.

Recipes are sets of rules needed to make a website work. If there is a recipe available for a page you are visiting you will be able to click on the puzzle icon in uMatrix and enable it.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by sleavey »

dangrossman wrote: post #235
sleavey wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find this annoying and noticed this change a year or so ago. Google used to just give you the (as far as I could tell) unadulterated link. In fact, at the time I wondered how/if Google were actually able to track how many people clicked the top link in the results, because it seemed to be the real URL and stayed real even when clicked. I figured they either had so much faith in PageRank that they didn't need to mon…

You may have noticed it a year ago but Google's been doing this redirect in their search results for 5+ years.

Perhaps it's been that long after all, or, perhaps Firefox only started changing the target URL in the status box at the bottom left of the screen to the injected one in the past year or so?

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by newen »

llarsson wrote: post #233
zamadatix wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only 30% of FF users have any add-ons at all. Only about 1/3 of those have adblock plus or unlock origin.

Alternatively, only 1/3 of Firefox users that also do not disable telemetry have any add-ons at all. More than a handful choose that browser for privacy, including keeping stuff private from Mozilla.

Yeah, first thing I do when I install Firefox is disable telemetry and install uBlock.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by bugmen0t »

nightski wrote: post #133

I'm on the latest Firefox and it's allowing a Set-Cookie with the Secure flag over http (for localhost). This seems wrong to me, but maybe it's allowed for localhost specifically? Anyone else experience this?

Yes. localhost is considered a Secure Context via https://w3c.github.io/webappsec-secure-contexts/#potentially... - This is intentional to testing APIs which require a Secure Context easier to use during development. E.g., ServiceWorkers.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by alleyshack »

LocalPCGuy wrote: post #227
alleyshack wrote: post #205

I want to switch to Firefox, but of all things, its tab management is keeping me away. On my last try, I gave up after five minutes because I couldn't see all my open tabs at once (had to scroll). Does anyone know of an extension or setting I can use to force Chrome-like tab behavior, where all tabs are shown at once regardless of how small they become?

For people with a lot of tabs, I recommend trying a Vertical Tabs add-on. I am currently using Vertical Tabs Reloaded, but there are a couple different ones. Usually people have plenty of horizontal space and you have a scrollable sidebar with all your tabs in it.

Thanks, but I'm looking for something that doesn't require scrolling - where I can see all my open tabs at the same time, no scrolling, clicks, or other interaction required. I toggle between tabs a LOT, and having to scroll or otherwise navigate to find the right tab is a hard no for me.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by stiray »

typon wrote: post #130

My friend who works in an adtech company: "Protip: Use Firefox instead of Chrome. We get very little data from Firefox users"

Protip #2, for what cant be traced using conventional methods, they will use fingerprinting and those add-ons take care about most common methods of fingerprinting - canvas, webgl, fonts and audio:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/canvas-finger...

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/webgl-fingerp...

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/font-fingerpr...

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/audioctx-fing...

I would really love to have more addins like this, doing one thing and doing it good. They will kill fingerprinting and as a proof, I was downvoted the next moment i posted the links in another post but I want you to know there is a way out.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by dennisy »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #234
kelnos wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotal, but I've pushed close friends who are reasonably technical to install an ad blocker. Without my urging, they wouldn't have had one at all. When I come across someone who doesn't adblock, it surprises me, but it really shouldn't, as it seems most people don't have an ad blocker.

I still don't use an ad blocker. I know all the arguments for ad blocking and I agree with many of them. I know what difference it makes in terms of performance and annoyance. But I just can't bring myself to indiscriminately block all ads, knowing how important they are as a funding source for the websites I use. There's only one thing that destroys privacy even more thoroughly than ad targeting: payment.

I feel the same, but also hate how bad sites with ads are.

There must be a better way!

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by alleyshack »

ric2b wrote: post #226
alleyshack wrote: post #205

I want to switch to Firefox, but of all things, its tab management is keeping me away. On my last try, I gave up after five minutes because I couldn't see all my open tabs at once (had to scroll). Does anyone know of an extension or setting I can use to force Chrome-like tab behavior, where all tabs are shown at once regardless of how small they become?

I use tree style tabs, which is amazing for tab hoarders like me: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Do you still have to navigate? Like, click or scroll or whatever, to get between tabs? I'm looking for a UI that shows me all my tabs, all at once, no clicks/scrolling/navigation required.
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