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Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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It all seems pretty pointless when every tracker tracks you by IP address and the only real way to defeat this is to use Tor, which BTW is blocked on an ever-growing list of sites.

IP is a much coarser level of tracking, for most people.

GCNAT, roaming (WiFi mobile), shared networks (NAT/IPv6 Privacy Addresses). All of these things mean you can't be sure you're tracking the _same_ person, unlike with cookies.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

#52
Off topic, but every time I see an article like this I load up Firefox and try it out to see how it has progressed. I inevitably stop using it, and this time I decided to introspect and see why. It turns out that it's mouse wheel scrolling doesn't feel as snappy as other browsers, and for some reason it bothers me a lot. I'm going to try changing the scroll wheel settings and see if I can stick with it.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

#53

This is fantastic. I never liked the cookies sticking around forever, and managing them manually was a massive pain if you wanted to keep some of them. Not to mention Firefox is usually brought to its knees when trying to delete large segments of History/Cookies at once.

What cookies are you trying to get rid of? Why are they a big deal?

The ones that track your identity are sort of a big deal. There's no reason to keep this litter hanging around.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

#55
> Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0; blocking redirect trackers by default

Isnt that what is used with Google Search? For example if you go here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=sunday

the first result appears to be:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday

but its really:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

#56

Off topic, but every time I see an article like this I load up Firefox and try it out to see how it has progressed. I inevitably stop using it, and this time I decided to introspect and see why. It turns out that it's mouse wheel scrolling doesn't feel as snappy as other browsers, and for some reason it bothers me a lot. I'm going to try changing the scroll wheel settings and see if I can stick with it.

Honestly I don’t notice any difference between FF and Chrome for scrolling. What do you mean it doesn’t feel as snappy?

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

#57

I never understood this feature. Why not use an addon instead? Ublock origin for example is much better compared to the firefox tracking protection.

Because the default should be to block tracking. We just shouldn't allow it. Imagine someone telling you a popup blocker (something even IE8 had standard) should be acquire separately.

Integrate ublock origin then? Why offer an inferior solution?

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

#58
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post #24

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> This is fantastic. I never liked the cookies sticking around forever, and managing them manually was a massive pain if you wanted to keep some of them. You might like the CookieAutoDelete plugin[1]. It's a recommended plugin which allows you to set a list of domains and domain patterns which retain their cookies while others are deleted. I've been using it for a couple of months now, and I love it. [1] https://addo…

There is a newer extension called CookieBro that is much better than CookieAutoDelete. Not only does it have more options for dealing with cookies, CookieAutoDelete often would leave some cookies alive.

Unfortunately CookieBro is not open-source it seems.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

#59
post #55

> Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0; blocking redirect trackers by default Isnt that what is used with Google Search? For example if you go here: https://www.google.com/search?q=sunday the first result appears to be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday but its really: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

If that's true, surely that's going to play havoc for the Search Console

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a good idea would be to somehow run the embeds in their own isolated container? Not sure how feasible that feature would be to implement.

Indeed. Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube embeds all use iframes, so it should be entirely feasible to run these things in isolated containers.

adding the sandbox, csp and referrerpolicy attributes to the iframe when it gets inserted to the DOM tree allows a lot of fine-grained control. Adding sandbox without allow-same-origin puts it into a null origin which makes the iframe isolated from all other origins which is similar to an ephemeral container. It might break CORS stuff though.
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