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Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by agurk »

ainar-g wrote: post #24
vikbytes wrote: post #15

This is fantastic. I never liked the cookies sticking around forever, and managing them manually was a massive pain if you wanted to keep some of them. Not to mention Firefox is usually brought to its knees when trying to delete large segments of History/Cookies at once.

> This is fantastic. I never liked the cookies sticking around forever, and managing them manually was a massive pain if you wanted to keep some of them. You might like the CookieAutoDelete plugin[1]. It's a recommended plugin which allows you to set a list of domains and domain patterns which retain their cookies while others are deleted. I've been using it for a couple of months now, and I love it. [1] https://addo…

That is a fantastic plugin although unfortunately it's not (yet?) available in the new mobile Firefox - nor any equivalent. It's still there for the old version if you haven't been force-upgraded.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by ffpip »

jorvi wrote: post #37
ainar-g wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is fantastic. I never liked the cookies sticking around forever, and managing them manually was a massive pain if you wanted to keep some of them. You might like the CookieAutoDelete plugin[1]. It's a recommended plugin which allows you to set a list of domains and domain patterns which retain their cookies while others are deleted. I've been using it for a couple of months now, and I love it. [1] https://addo…

There is a newer extension called CookieBro that is much better than CookieAutoDelete. Not only does it have more options for dealing with cookies, CookieAutoDelete often would leave some cookies alive.

I use cookie quick manager.

It can delete all cookies on closing browser (except the ones you have 'protected' in the addon settings like reddit and YT)

You cab also edit cookie values and change properties, etc

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by ilikehurdles »

atombender wrote: post #26

I'm a fan of ETP, except it breaks a lot of sites that use embeds. For example, sites that use Twitter or Instagram [1] embeds won't show the embeds. And there's no way, as far as I can tell, to whitelist those. The only solution is to whitelist the sites that have embeds, but that ends up enabling all the tracking and stuff you don't want. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1446243

Sounds like a good idea would be to somehow run the embeds in their own isolated container? Not sure how feasible that feature would be to implement.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by ffpip »

duhi88 wrote: post #29
atombender wrote: post #26

I'm a fan of ETP, except it breaks a lot of sites that use embeds. For example, sites that use Twitter or Instagram [1] embeds won't show the embeds. And there's no way, as far as I can tell, to whitelist those. The only solution is to whitelist the sites that have embeds, but that ends up enabling all the tracking and stuff you don't want. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1446243

Pretty sure that embeds enable all the tracking stuff you don't want, too.

Yes.

Embeds aren't broken, they just appear text only.

When you block twitter embeds , you can't like the tweet without opening the tweet in a separate tab.

You can't do both. Either have the like functionality, or block it.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by gen220 »

mitchdoogle wrote: post #31
tdhz77 wrote: post #23

I keep encouraging people to use Firefox over the others. My efforts keep failing. Mozilla’s focus on privacy is important and should be to others. People have been burned in the past and are willing to give up privacy for something that just works. The irony.

Do people think Firefox doesn't work? I've noticed zero difference between using Firefox and Chrome and I've used both daily for five years or so.

For me, there are only subtle differences. I use Chrome for work (golden browser for our web apps) and FF personally.

Google maps has never worked well for me on FF. The "old"/basic interface for Gmail works fine, but the new one was noticeably slower.

It doesn't seem exclusive to Google, however. Many PWA sites (including bank websites!) have, from time to time, inexplicably failed to load certain elements on FF, while loading them without fail on GC.

I don't really fault FF for this, but it is what it is.

The good news is it seems to be getting better. Every month or so, I try these trouble sites in FF, and every month I have fewer "trouble sites".

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by infinityplus1 »

Widow wrote: post #38
mitchdoogle wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do people think Firefox doesn't work? I've noticed zero difference between using Firefox and Chrome and I've used both daily for five years or so.

Google has an incredible walled garden of apps and things that 'just' work together seamlessly. I remember switching from FF to Chrome years ago as Chrome was measurably faster. The staying power was using Google's entire suite of apps with Chrome. Things like copying and pasting without formatting or searching for strings all contribute to stickiness.

I have to frequently open Google Meet in Chrome because other users can't see my screen while screen sharing using Firefox.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by bishalb »

tdhz77 wrote: post #23

I keep encouraging people to use Firefox over the others. My efforts keep failing. Mozilla’s focus on privacy is important and should be to others. People have been burned in the past and are willing to give up privacy for something that just works. The irony.

I would use it regularly if it weren't noticably slower than Chrome and in many cases unresponsive (I get the yellow bar at the top that says site isn't responding or something like that, when the same site opens fine on chrome). I have the developer edition installed and am logged in via alternate profiles on some sites there. Often times, it displays a blank for a few seconds on heavy sites(with just 2 tabs open) before loading the content.

The developer console is also slower than Chrome's.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by atombender »

ilikehurdles wrote: post #44
atombender wrote: post #26

I'm a fan of ETP, except it breaks a lot of sites that use embeds. For example, sites that use Twitter or Instagram [1] embeds won't show the embeds. And there's no way, as far as I can tell, to whitelist those. The only solution is to whitelist the sites that have embeds, but that ends up enabling all the tracking and stuff you don't want. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1446243

Sounds like a good idea would be to somehow run the embeds in their own isolated container? Not sure how feasible that feature would be to implement.

Indeed. Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube embeds all use iframes, so it should be entirely feasible to run these things in isolated containers.
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