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1Password for Linux development preview

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Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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After putting it off for a while, I finally moved from LastPass to 1Password around the beginning of the year. Inertia kept me with LastPass, but I really should have fought that. There's just no comparison between the pile of slow crap that is LastPass and it. I guess I just accepted that a password filler would be clunky, but... no. 1Password is much, much better.

Which platform is Lastpass slow at?

Just curious, since I don't have issues with Lastpass, but I mostly use the chrome extension.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Is this better than just using KeepPassXC with a simple kbdx file synced to an online drive? It's an honest question, I've never used 1Password before.

I switched from KeePass to 1Password mainly to get my family on it. They really appreciated the clean workflow once they got used to it after a couple days. And the auto-sync feature combined with the mobile app has been useful for when they have to enter the Netflix password on various devices.

Same here.

Sure you can use lots of other password managers, but if we are not talking about solo use case - it's practically impossible to beat 1Pass. You can set up your team and family in minutes, with granular controls. And people will understand how to use it in a few minutes.

With most other solutions you will have to spend hours here or there. Is that time worth a few bucks? For me I would gladly pay x2 so it just works and no one has to bother me with questions.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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I’ve been using 1Password every day for over 11 years now. The oldest passwords I’ve got stored are for Twitter and Dropbox (yes, the passwords have been changed but the records were first created in 2009). It’s one of those apps which has been made with proper craftsmanship and care, so while I’m not a Linux user, I’d have no problem recommending based solely on Agilebit’s reputation.

I just checked my vault out of curiosity, and my first entry from 2009 is the credit card I used to purchase a 1Password licence shortly after!

It’s robust software that does was it says on the box. I was initially reluctant to move out of my local vault but the online service has been impeccable.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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I was a 1Password user from when it was fully self-hosted until they started pulling bait and switch tactics to move people to subscriptions and online vaults[1]. I also had Windows licences, and Windows was certainly a 2nd class citizen while I used 1Password. And of course, it doesn't look like the 1Password Linux client is open source. The back-end certainly isn't. I switched to Keepass[2] initially, synchronised…

I'm also a big fan of Bitwarden. Have tested 1Password, LastPass and a few of the other password managers over the last 5 years. This is the one that ticks all the boxes, has the least bloat, does correct matching. I support it with pleasure!

I looked into the encryption of bitwarden and it seemed to use a little-known SQL encryption extension. That seemed a little too iffy for me.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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They were also pretty dismissive of Linux for a long time, so it's kind of funny to hear it as one of their biggest requests. 1Password X narrowly prevented me from switching for a while, but I've come to see alternatives as generally better options. Yeah, they're not as flashy, but I think Bitwarden and Keepass XC do a great job. Keepass XC may even be doing a better job at security . At least in some dimensions. ht…

That’s where Agilebits has me; the UI on Mac and iOS is so much better than the alternatives. I do keep looking, Keepass XC looks really good since the last time I checked around.

KeepassXC is quite good if you mainly use it on your computer. I've been using Keepass(XC) for about 10 years, it's secure and reliable. But I'm looking to switch to 1password or Bitwarden as I'm increasingly using portable devices (phone, tablet…).

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also a big fan of Bitwarden. Have tested 1Password, LastPass and a few of the other password managers over the last 5 years. This is the one that ticks all the boxes, has the least bloat, does correct matching. I support it with pleasure!

I tested Bitwarden for a while and found it was lacking features compared to 1Password. Until a few weeks back they didn't even have a "Trash", delete an item and it was gone forever. Exporting 1Password to Bitwarden was a complete mess, attachments in items were not imported at all/deleted (you don't get a warning of this.) Bitwarden is okay, but compared to 1Password they have a long way to go in my opinion.

It depends. 1Password lacks some things I'd really want (like configurable matching, having everything on a subdomain that's not on the public prefix list match is cumbersome). The Windows client is also extremely laggy and doesn't use Windows Hello half the time.

1Password X, which is almost a must-use on Windows, also has desyncing issues.

So I guess if you don't mind the above and are on macOS, it's better.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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I was a 1Password user from when it was fully self-hosted until they started pulling bait and switch tactics to move people to subscriptions and online vaults[1]. I also had Windows licences, and Windows was certainly a 2nd class citizen while I used 1Password. And of course, it doesn't look like the 1Password Linux client is open source. The back-end certainly isn't. I switched to Keepass[2] initially, synchronised…

FYI, the Windows application is now at the level of the macOS version. I was also annoyed by the move to a subscription model and waited a while before accepting to switch. But I'm now quite happy paying yearly given how well they improved their cross-platform support.

I can't mirror that experience, half the time the shortcuts (Ctrl+Alt+| or Shift+Alt+|) don't work for me, or are so slow in opening the application that going to the tray is faster.

I loathe the 1Password Mini interface because it doesn't have editing and wish I could just default to something that does.

There's also a lot of polish issues. For instance, if you have your taskbar with tray on a secondary screen, it still renders the context menu on the primary. If they are different sizes it might do it offscreen.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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I switched to "pass" from 1p and it is a breeze because it just works without all the bullshit and I don't have to place any trust on a company saying they do things right (they will never tell otherwise). And 1password never cared about Linux. I had to custom-script data export, they pretty much held data hostage by making it difficult to migrate from the platform, not to speak of the undocumented data formats. But…

I have to call this out as a bit of a hyperbole. They already participate, quite openly, in security audits[0], and while yes, I'd love it if it was OSS too, but the reality of making money on these services is that (especially I believe at the time 1Password was founded), is it wouldn't have likely done them any good, really. In fact it could hurt their business. I believe 1Password was one of (but not the only!) pi…

> As far as exporting goes, you can simply generate a CSV file (or plain txt)[1] as well.

There is (was?) no way to do that on Linux.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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I've been using keepassxc which is open source, extremely snappy (it's one of the fastest starting gui apps on my desktop) and offers all the functionality I think I need (ssh agent integration, secret service integration...). What does 1password offer that would make me switch? Why is everyone so excited about 1password and keepassxc is hardly ever mentioned?

> What does 1password offer that would make me switch?

Mostly great sync across devices, and great apps on all devices (all mobile, all browsers, and all desktop OS except Linux for now).

If you mainly use one computer and don't mind tools which are a bit less polished, it's not that compelling.

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