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Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by twblalock » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 2:17 AM UTC

Scarbutt wrote: post #107

emdowling wrote: post #30

I’ve been using 1Password every day for over 11 years now. The oldest passwords I’ve got stored are for Twitter and Dropbox (yes, the passwords have been changed but the records were first created in 2009). It’s one of those apps which has been made with proper craftsmanship and care, so while I’m not a Linux user, I’d have no problem recommending based solely on Agilebit’s reputation.

But why a whole electron app just to store passwords?

Why shouldn't it be Electron? Should it be GTK? Why not QT?

Linux doesn't have a standard desktop environment or widget toolkit. Electron doesn't seem like a worse choice than the other options, and it's easy to find engineers who know how to work with it.

1Password doesn't just store passwords. It has a bunch of other features. It's a fairly complex app at this point. It also has fairly similar user experiences in Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS, and Android, and that's pretty hard to pull off. If Electron helps them accomplish that, that's fine.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by pseudalopex » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 2:21 AM UTC

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #129

maxgee wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've absolutely crippled 1password to make local vaults as difficult to buy and use as possible. They don't roll out updated versions as often, many versions don't get support for local vaults for years, they make it nearly impossible to buy the non-subscription version, and you can no longer upgrade older licenses to use new versions. Their entire business model is really sleazy and they've gone out of their way…

> Every company that has moved to a subscription and cloud-based product has essentially traded a one time $30-50 license to getting that (or more) every year, and the product is usually inferior from my experience. Two mild counterpoints: (1) While "from my experience" is always definitionally anecdotal, most applications that I'm aware of that have moved to (or started with) a subscription-based model have released…

1Password used to let you host self host web vaults. Dropbox and iCloud seem to work fine where they're still supported.

Dropping local vaults in an iOS patch was kind of sleazy. So is downplaying the ways the new security model is worse.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by awill » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 2:22 AM UTC

princevegeta89 wrote: post #103

techntoke wrote: post #82

Enpass is a really nice password app that works on Linux, and allows you to sync with various cloud providers. I have since switched to Password Store though which is open source and uses GPG for encryption, so you can pick your own algorithms.

Yup, have been using Enpass exactly for the reason that there has never been a 1Password for Linux until now. Enpass always worked seamlessly, and it was a one-time purchase for me back then. (They changed it to a subscription model a year ago)

I'm perfectly happy with enpass, and see no reason to move from a one-time purchase of enpass to a subscription for 1Password.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by bwoodruff » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 2:22 AM UTC

sickcodebruh wrote: post #35

I use 1PW professionally, with our whole company having shared vaults for different departments and security levels, as well as at home, so my wife and I can share some credentials. Absolutely love it. I’m spending more and more time working from Ubuntu so I’m very happy to see this, it should make things just a bit easier.

Awesome! We'd be happy to hear any feedback once you start using it. :) - Ben, 1Password

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by tempestn » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 2:24 AM UTC

Speaking of 1PW, has anyone else been having an issue for perhaps the past 1-2 months on Windows, where there's an intermittent delay before the interface opens when using the keyboard shortcut to open 1pw mini? (Likely also affects the direct fill shortcut, but I rarely use that.) Most of the time it's near instantaneous, but over the past while, maybe 5-10% of the time it takes 8 seconds to register. Started happening to both my wife and I (on separate machines) around the same time.

I figure if I can find others with the same issue, maybe I could find a commonality. I spoke with support, but apparently it's not a known issue.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by bwoodruff » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 2:25 AM UTC

igravious wrote: post #45

dastx wrote: post #2

Ooh boy. This is amazing. The horrible Linux support they had was the reason I left 1Password. This might make me go back to 1Password.

Don't they have browser plugins? That's how use Lastpass on Ubuntu. I mean, besides Electron apps, who actually makes native Linux apps? (joking, not joking)

Our 1Password X extension works great on Linux. :) - Ben, 1Password

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by bwoodruff » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 2:26 AM UTC

randomstring wrote: post #53

I see support for Debian and Ubuntu ( https://support.1password.com/cs/getting-started-linux/ ), but I don't see anything about Raspbian or running on the Rasberry Pi. Hopefully Pi support isn't far behind.

We don't currently support ARM but we'll keep an eye out for feedback on this. Thanks! - Ben, 1Password

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by bwoodruff » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 2:27 AM UTC

eberkund wrote: post #97

Is it Electron based? I noticed the blog post said they used React to build the UI.

It is a hybrid. The UI is using Electron. The guts are Rust. - Ben, 1Password

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by bwoodruff » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 2:28 AM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #114

no_wizard wrote: post #67

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I think you can just use 1Password for Families in this case https://1password.com/families/

That's what I use. The iOS app has a 17+ rating.

We're not thrilled about the 17+ rating on iOS either, and are evaluating our options there... Thanks! - Ben, 1Password

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by mkskm » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 2:33 AM UTC

suchire wrote: post #133

mkskm wrote: post #118

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> It’s one of those apps which has been made with proper craftsmanship and care Is it? I've been using it for sometime as well but it seems like there is a lot of room for improvement. E.g: - Support for unlocking via Watch ID on the Mac. - Currently on iOS when searching for a password within an app, if a site prefix is included that doesn't match what's in 1Password the list will just show no results, with no way t…

We use Dashlane at work, and every day I want to switch to 1Password, which I use in my home life. Dashlane has weird permissions glitches, a really buggy and very non-intuitive desktop app, really terrible web browser extensions that makes me tear out my hair in frustration, and even the mobile app doesn’t feel like it has the features I want, like the ability to add more than one password field (useful for accounts…

Agreed on all those points, especially the desktop app which was ultimately the breaking point for me. The only thing better about Dashlane right now is the UI on the iOS app IMO.