What would 1Password add to keepassxc+Dropbox for personal use? It only subtracts from the security.
I get that organizations with many users don’t want to deal with database management. For personal use though, keepassxc is fine.
1Password for Linux development preview
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#102What are peoples thoughts about firefox lockwise? I have been using keepass for forever but I want something that easily syncs between devices and doesn't require copy/paste in to the browser. Lockwise seems perfect but I haven't used it much yet.
I've found great success with KeePass and Dropbox. I use the Kee plugin in Firefox that allows autofill in the browser, and KeePass2Android on my phone which supports pluggable autofill for browsers and apps on Android.
It's not as trivial to set up as Lockwise or 1Password, but I prefer this setup because:
- 100% Open Source - I own the keyring and can sync it across literally all of my machines, plus the cloud storage provider(s) of my choice seamlessly - The keyring is protected by a key that only I know, no third party is handling the unlock on my behalf
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#103Enpass is a really nice password app that works on Linux, and allows you to sync with various cloud providers. I have since switched to Password Store though which is open source and uses GPG for encryption, so you can pick your own algorithms.
Yup, have been using Enpass exactly for the reason that there has never been a 1Password for Linux until now.
Enpass always worked seamlessly, and it was a one-time purchase for me back then. (They changed it to a subscription model a year ago)
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Appreciate your response. I'll reiterate what I've said past threads - I love 1Password a lot, and used it exclusively from 2012 to early 2020, in addition to using it personally I converted majority of my extended family to it as well. What irks me is that I paid for the desktop (macOS) app and iOS app once back in 2012 and once again for 1Password 7 (or 6?) upgrade, that is not enough to support the company and is…
As somebody who uses exclusively local vaults and pays via subscription, that is totally possible. It’s not possible on Linux, as noted above, but the Mac/iOS apps have supported that for the full lifespan of the subscription model.
How do you sync your local vaults across different machines?
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That isn’t logical at all. The two are completely different threat models. I used to be a happy 1Password customer until they decided that they did not want people like me as customers. I trust the code, I don’t trust them to store my data, encrypted or not.
Why not keep storing your data locally, the same way that you were before?
They've absolutely crippled 1password to make local vaults as difficult to buy and use as possible. They don't roll out updated versions as often, many versions don't get support for local vaults for years, they make it nearly impossible to buy the non-subscription version, and you can no longer upgrade older licenses to use new versions.
Their entire business model is really sleazy and they've gone out of their way to alienate people who don't want to pay for a subscription and hosting service for something as simple and secure as locally encrypting passwords. I was a loyal customer for a long time but after a few years of them jerking non-subscribers around, I got tired of it and tell any friends and family to stay away from it.
Every company that has moved to a subscription and cloud-based product has essentially traded a one time $30-50 license to getting that (or more) every year, and the product is usually inferior from my experience.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is this a preview of things to come for Mac/Windows? Will 1Password stop supporting self-hosted vaults?
No, this has been available for YEARS on Mac/Win, so it's not a preview of anything. Self hosted vaults haven't been in the new apps for years either, although the last version to support local vaults is still available.
The latest versions of 1Password still support locally stored vaults. They only sell the cloud service subscription these days, but you can still use local/Dropbox vaults on every platform. (except for Linux it seems)
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#107I’ve been using 1Password every day for over 11 years now. The oldest passwords I’ve got stored are for Twitter and Dropbox (yes, the passwords have been changed but the records were first created in 2009). It’s one of those apps which has been made with proper craftsmanship and care, so while I’m not a Linux user, I’d have no problem recommending based solely on Agilebit’s reputation.
But why a whole electron app just to store passwords?
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#108As many others have said, I'll be interested once they provide local vault support on Linux.
I dislike subscriptions - not for the financial cost as such, but because I like to evaluate whether or not I want to pay for a given version or stay on the current version. I'm happy to pay for software that provides value to me, which 1Password does (and I did pay for the existing clients). The same applies to major version updates when they add value for me - though the reality is that my usage is very basic, and I am often happy with an older version of the same software for years, so subscriptions to support continued feature development feels like an unjustified lock-in to me.
I do subscribe to some services that have a significant backend/cloud-based component, but in the case of 1Password, I sync the vault via Dropbox, so a subscription instead of licence/upgrade based pricing feels completely inappropriate.
Since I am trying to move more of my computing to Linux, it looks like at some point I'll have to look for other options than 1Password, which is a shame :-(
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
As somebody who uses exclusively local vaults and pays via subscription, that is totally possible. It’s not possible on Linux, as noted above, but the Mac/iOS apps have supported that for the full lifespan of the subscription model.
How do you sync your local vaults across different machines?
Some of them I sync via Dropbox’s native 1Password integration. Others are stored as raw files from 1Password’s perspective, and I sync them by either copying the files or storing the file vault in Google Drive.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
That isn’t logical at all. The two are completely different threat models. I used to be a happy 1Password customer until they decided that they did not want people like me as customers. I trust the code, I don’t trust them to store my data, encrypted or not.
Why not keep storing your data locally, the same way that you were before?
Maybe they weren't. 1Password used to support self hosting and third party sync services. Some versions still support some third party services but only subscriptions work everywhere.