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27-inch iMac gets a major update

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Yes, Apple charges a premium over custom building a PC with equivalent parts. Not anything new or shocking there.

So add £200 to the base. Where’s my £1679 advantage? Also I’m paying full retail not OEM prices for these parts.

Obviously Apple is not courting the pcpartspicker market.

This is competing against products like HP Envy 32, Microsoft Surface Studio 2, etc which are priced similarly. You pay a premium for the design and form factor.

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Only the $2300 model has an option of upgrading to 5700XT for an extra $500, and that's not even a high-end GPU.

It's weird how restricted the choices are on SSDs too. The $1800 model is stuck at 256GB, the $2000 model lets you do 512/1TB/2TB, and the $2300 model adds options for 4TB/8TB.

Like, this has to be a totally artificial restriction. I'd much rather buy the cheap one with a bigger SSD, but instead I'm stuck paying hundreds of dollars extra for features I don't care about.

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Apple uses a file system especially designed for fast file transfer speeds, and guess what benchmarks they're using to declare their SSDs superior? With newer M.2 drives like the 970 EVO or Sabrent Rocket Apple has no valid excuse for charging so damn much for storage...

> With newer M.2 drives like the 970 EVO or Sabrent Rocket Apple has no valid excuse for charging so damn much for storage... Can you show any other major manufacturer that includes a competitive internal drive for significantly less? Because otherwise you're comparing very different things. Dell also upcharges $300 for a 1TB NVMe SSD. "If I buy it separately and install it myself" isn't a valid market comparison. If…

https://laptopmedia.com/laptop-m-2-ngff-ssd-compatibility-li...

Many (most?) modern laptops seem to have an m.2 expansion slot. You could for a fraction of the price put in a 2TB SSD.

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Why do their customers tolerate this?! I know some people love Apple (their hardware does look great), but this is extremely annoying.

Apple supports their hardware (both repairs and software updates) for much longer than anyone else ever. While I have no qualms about opening up my Dell desktop, I wouldn't dare touch a laptop. Laptops, even before Apple soldered the components in, were extremely fragile. My Sony Vaio for example had a broken key and the only option was to replace the entire keyboard. In essence, I'd rather go with a company that wil…

But apple laptop repairs are basically the price of a new machine, and they've had severe quality problems for a few years.

May as well but a new Dell every 2 years for half the price

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Wonderful computer. How much you wanna bet that in < 5 years they drop support forcing almost everyone that purchased one to throw it out and get a new one?

I'd take that bet. Apple is generally good about keeping old machines working.

For 5 years, you're probably right. For 10 years, I think not. For example, the 2011 iMacs are stuck on High Sierra, which hits end of life later this year.

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>> upgrade considering the pricing. Don't forget it includes a 5K display...

It includes a 5K display which may become useless in five years? (when Apple plans to stop updates for Intel based Macs). It seems that iMacs do not support using them as expernal displays right now. I would prefer 5K monitor to last a bit longer than five years.

When support ends, install Windows.

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So: A 2020 iMac now with 2018 Hardware. Not a NVMe SSD use in sight. Not exactly a "major update". Looks like the magic on this iMac is already wearing off and the magicians want their reality distortion spells back.

The iMac had NVMe SSDs at least as early as 2015[1]. Apple has since moved away from NVMe modules and gone to raw flash chips hanging directly off the proprietary "T2" system controller chipset. I think it's fair to criticize the proprietary/non-upgradeable nature of this storage solution but benchmarks have shown it to be comparable in performance to standard PCIe 3.0 NVMe drives so calling it outdated is not really…

Oh how weird. I just assumed it was an M.2 drive in there.

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It just feels wrong to buy anything new from Apple with "Intel Inside" - when they're clearly going to dump it soon, in favor of ARM (excuse me for not using the cringey term Apple Silicon).

>It just feels wrong to buy anything new from Apple with "Intel Inside" - when they're clearly going to dump it soon, I'd be very surprised if Apple Silicon is going to be competitive against the Xeons in their highest end machines any time soon, so they'll be bound to supporting Intel at the OS level for the foreseeable future. They've basically said as much. I suspect you should be able to get about 5 years, at lea…

>I'd be very surprised if Apple Silicon is going to be competitive against the Xeons in their highest end machines any time soon

I'll take that action :) I think it's going to be pretty dramatic. Or they wouldn't have bothered.

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