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Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Post by Nightshaxx »

fqye wrote: post #258

If the US forced ByteDance to sell Tiktok, the US would lose its last bit of moral high ground in China, the spirit of free market and rule by law. If you are worried about data leakage to China, you set rules and law and enforce them. That is what China is doing. They asked Apple and other cloud service provider to store data in China. The US could setup clear rules and regulations about where to put data of US user…

The accusations against China is that they do not follow the rules. Stealing IP is very illegal in the US but that didn't (allegedly) stop Waweii. So just saying "make more rules" is not a valid solution if the accusations are true. Byte dance already does store data in the US, but the only way to 100% prove they aren't sending data to China is to regularly audit ISP logs.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Post by ipsum2 »

fqye wrote: post #258

If the US forced ByteDance to sell Tiktok, the US would lose its last bit of moral high ground in China, the spirit of free market and rule by law. If you are worried about data leakage to China, you set rules and law and enforce them. That is what China is doing. They asked Apple and other cloud service provider to store data in China. The US could setup clear rules and regulations about where to put data of US user…

I was going to make a similar comment, but I think your comment is a little exaggerated. Freedom of speech is still differentiates the US and China.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Post by fqye »

nujabe wrote: post #260
fqye wrote: post #258

If the US forced ByteDance to sell Tiktok, the US would lose its last bit of moral high ground in China, the spirit of free market and rule by law. If you are worried about data leakage to China, you set rules and law and enforce them. That is what China is doing. They asked Apple and other cloud service provider to store data in China. The US could setup clear rules and regulations about where to put data of US user…

What an embarrassingly delusional comment! And quite deceptive too. China, under no circumstances, no matter where the data is stored will allow Facebook or any other social/news media to have a presence in their country. What part of reciprocity do you not understand?

Bing is accessible from China. FB and Twitter must comply with censorship rules and storage of user data in China, among other things, to operate in China. Google was operating and accessible in China until China made clear the rules for them to follow. Google decided it couldn't follow they they pulled out the search engine business from China. China didn't force Google to sell. Censorship is bad but that is another issue.

And to do personal attack doesn't make you look smart.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Post by abledon »

m0xte wrote: post #192
nothis wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steve Jobs once said about Microsoft that their only problem is that they have no taste. And it's decisions like this that illustrate what he meant. TikTok is such a clash with everything Microsoft stands for as a company (if there is such a thing). It makes no sense.

That’s absolutely amazingly on the mark.

at this point its almost 'on brand' for microsoft to buy it

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Post by nujabe »

fqye wrote: post #263
nujabe wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What an embarrassingly delusional comment! And quite deceptive too. China, under no circumstances, no matter where the data is stored will allow Facebook or any other social/news media to have a presence in their country. What part of reciprocity do you not understand?

Bing is accessible from China. FB and Twitter must comply with censorship rules and storage of user data in China, among other things, to operate in China. Google was operating and accessible in China until China made clear the rules for them to follow. Google decided it couldn't follow they they pulled out the search engine business from China. China didn't force Google to sell. Censorship is bad but that is another…

Dang, every one of this user's posts is defending the CCP. I think you've mentioned something about 'single purpose accounts' not being allowed. I kindly ask you take a look at this.

As for your comment fqye, it is not even worthy of a response.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Post by fqye »

nujabe wrote: post #265
fqye wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bing is accessible from China. FB and Twitter must comply with censorship rules and storage of user data in China, among other things, to operate in China. Google was operating and accessible in China until China made clear the rules for them to follow. Google decided it couldn't follow they they pulled out the search engine business from China. China didn't force Google to sell. Censorship is bad but that is another…

Dang, every one of this user's posts is defending the CCP. I think you've mentioned something about 'single purpose accounts' not being allowed. I kindly ask you take a look at this. As for your comment fqye, it is not even worthy of a response.

So what? If CCP isn't allowed to be defended here, isn't this place exactly what CCP is?

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

#267

Post by altaria »

mullingitover wrote: post #246
altaria wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are far more Democracies supported by the US in numerous ways in the post WWII period than totalitarians supported. This is fact.

Correct, the US doesn't only support totalitarians. However, it does support them. The US support for democracy isn't based on principles is my point, it's based on convenience, and the US will merrily crush a democracy and install a dictator if it's in US interests.

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Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Post by markshepard »

kohtatsu wrote: post #201
Hydraulix989 wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still a $1T+ company, that's the metric that matters when evaluating the "worth" of a business. So in that sense, the market has a "taste" for Microsoft.

Honestly I don't give a flying fuck about a company's market cap, I care about what it offers to me and the world. Markets are a means to an end, not something to fetishize.

Unfortunately price is the information. It is actually a better indicator of quality than many other attributes. Not a perfect one but better.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Post by fqye »

Nightshaxx wrote: post #261
fqye wrote: post #258

If the US forced ByteDance to sell Tiktok, the US would lose its last bit of moral high ground in China, the spirit of free market and rule by law. If you are worried about data leakage to China, you set rules and law and enforce them. That is what China is doing. They asked Apple and other cloud service provider to store data in China. The US could setup clear rules and regulations about where to put data of US user…

The accusations against China is that they do not follow the rules. Stealing IP is very illegal in the US but that didn't (allegedly) stop Waweii. So just saying "make more rules" is not a valid solution if the accusations are true. Byte dance already does store data in the US, but the only way to 100% prove they aren't sending data to China is to regularly audit ISP logs.

It is fair to accuse China of anything. It is the actions the government or law makers take that matter.

I think Trump administration is them problem. It is amazing to see how much a single term of an irrational president could damage a country in almost every aspects.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Post by nujabe »

fqye wrote: post #266
nujabe wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dang, every one of this user's posts is defending the CCP. I think you've mentioned something about 'single purpose accounts' not being allowed. I kindly ask you take a look at this. As for your comment fqye, it is not even worthy of a response.

So what? If CCP isn't allowed to be defended here, isn't this place exactly what CCP is?

It is against the rules to have an account, such as yours, whose only purpose is to defend the CCP.
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