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Is it any more odd than China strong-arming the NBA, lest they are barred from operating there? If TikTok wants the American/European market and they’d sell the company in order to so, that’s just the reality of working within the current geopolitical landscape.
They do it, so we should too. Got it.
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#252This is not good. Facebook or Google would be worse, but Microsoft is only marginally less bad here.
This is far better than having facial recognition data in the hands of CCP. I am not a fan of US gov, but if I had the choice, I wouldn't side with CCP. The genie is already out and we've failed to put laws in place to stop all this data collection way back in 2004. Surprisingly, I feel comfortable with Microsoft having this data. What a world we've created. For those who are skeptical, just watch the Vice doc on how…
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Exactly. Unfortunately we humans have a tendency to believe that we can understand what's useful for the rest of the people better than themselves.
So parenting isn't useful and children should pay their parents? - Just to show that there are other factors at play as well and not all can be measured in money. To go back to the Microsoft case: They played the market well, that there are no alternatives in some areas and a new owner has hardly a chance to go there.
They should, most cultures express it in the form of an expectation that children take care of their parents in their old age.
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#254This honestly would take the cake for for stupidest purchase ever. I couldn't think of a way to lose money faster. Maybe they should also purchase Snapchat too.
> This honestly would take the cake for for stupidest purchase ever. I couldn't think of a way to lose money faster. No comment on the potential TikTok acquisition by MSFT from me, but your quote reminds me of a lot of HN comments and opinions I heard elsewhere, but regarding Zuck and his WhatsApp and Instagram acquisition. Everyone was pretty much clowning him as figuratively the dumbest man on earth who was simply…
For TikTok however I think there are two concerns. Number one would be the political situation between USA and China. Number two would be the fact that Instagram, Snapchat, Youtube, Twitter, WeChat and so on have already captured so much of whatever there is to capture in this market. I would be surprised if TikTok became the next WhatsApp, I think it's much more likely to be the next Snapchat or Viber.
If I had to buy a Chinese company, it would be Huawei. But Microsoft would find a way to kill that too.
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Jokes aside, it probably would be a nice addition to their consumer-oriented portfolio (i.e. xbox, minecraft, etc), if they're planning to stay relevant in the FAANG-taking-over-the-world state of reality these days.
Steve Jobs once said about Microsoft that their only problem is that they have no taste. And it's decisions like this that illustrate what he meant. TikTok is such a clash with everything Microsoft stands for as a company (if there is such a thing). It makes no sense.
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#256Throwaway for obvious reasons. I cannot understand what executive thinks this is a good idea or that it makes any sense in the broader organizational structure of Microsoft. It's been so nice to see five years or so of relatively GOOD acquisitions. LinkedIn made sense: it's allowed for a legitimate Salesforce compete, especially when paired with Dynamics. GitHub was incredibly smart and it aligns well with the resurg…
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From the outside looking in, it seems like Mixer had other factors that contributed to the decision to close up shop[1]. It seems like Phil Spencer had a meeting with the affected ex-employee but nothing came out of it[2]. Adding on to that, a leaked town hall video really painted a grim image of the company and the management internally.[3] [1] https://twitter.com/MilanKLee/status/1274830702538821632 [2] https://twi…
Is this the manager seen on the video[3] who was accused of racist behavior? I wonder if they still work at Microsoft, I also wonder who put these people in charge. I don't believe Mixer was shut down because of bad management though, if the people in charge weren't getting results, then Microsoft would have just replace them.
I would tend to agree that management not getting results could be replaced. It could be that bad management was a symptom and not the cause.
[1] https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/06/microsoft-is-killing-...
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#258If you are worried about data leakage to China, you set rules and law and enforce them. That is what China is doing. They asked Apple and other cloud service provider to store data in China. The US could setup clear rules and regulations about where to put data of US users and if it is allowed to send the data to third country like China and then enforce them.
And China asked companies to set up jv in some sectors before they entered China market. They didn't do it after they were already here. Microsoft destroyed China's local word and spreadsheet editor software developers and China didn't ask MS to sell its China local business.
This act is pure bullying and imperialism. After that happens, the US wouldn't be able to command any support from Chinese people when it accuses CCP of anything.
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Yep -> "That order marked the sixth time a U.S. president has either blocked a deal or ordered a corporate selloff since Congress authorized the power to intervene in 1988." WSJ - https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-to-sign-order-demanding-c... I don't know the details of the others, but one that comes to mind (and maybe is mentioned in the article?) is the blocked acquisition of Qualcomm by Broadcom. -edit- The circu…
> I don't see the WTO being involved when China forces majority-owned joint ventures Did you check? https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/dispu_e/cases_e/ds549_e...
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#260If the US forced ByteDance to sell Tiktok, the US would lose its last bit of moral high ground in China, the spirit of free market and rule by law. If you are worried about data leakage to China, you set rules and law and enforce them. That is what China is doing. They asked Apple and other cloud service provider to store data in China. The US could setup clear rules and regulations about where to put data of US user…
China, under no circumstances, no matter where the data is stored will allow Facebook or any other social/news media to have a presence in their country. What part of reciprocity do you not understand?