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Re: Google adds "Black-owned" business attribute to local listings

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Post by X6S1x6Okd1st »

bearclaw89 wrote: post #105
stef25 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reparations refers to giving cash payments to the black community as an apology for what happened during slavery.

I guess in this context that's what it means. Giving money out simple based off someone's skin tone doesn't make much sense to me. Don't think America invented slavery.

That's an absurd standard. People successfully sue for fraud all the time, not just against the person that first invented fraud.

If you'd like to learn more about the case for reparations for chattel slavery in the US I can pull up some resources.

Re: Google adds "Black-owned" business attribute to local listings

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

monoideism wrote: post #49
sleepinseattle wrote: post #35

I’d suggest most of you read this as a longer form examination of policies like this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Be_an_Antiracist Rather than trying to make tired points in 140 characters.

Most of us understand the "anti-racist" philosophy. We just don't agree with it. BTW, it's the height of passive aggressiveness to use this rhetorical trick of naming things (antifa, anti-racist) in such a way that you use the very name to shame people. I mean, meet my new group: the anti-evil collective. What's that? You're don't agree with us? Well, you're against evil, aren't you? Are you some kind of a demon, or…

So, you claim to understand "anti-racism", but don't agree with it. And yet you're complaining about the name?

I'm sure if you understood the philosophy then you would be able to articulate your issues with it, rather than just complaining about something superficial. I'm guessing you're also against (but understand, ha) feminism too? but just don't like that it sounds like it's just for women.

Re: Google adds "Black-owned" business attribute to local listings

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Post by ralfd »

X6S1x6Okd1st wrote: post #111
bearclaw89 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess in this context that's what it means. Giving money out simple based off someone's skin tone doesn't make much sense to me. Don't think America invented slavery.

That's an absurd standard. People successfully sue for fraud all the time, not just against the person that first invented fraud. If you'd like to learn more about the case for reparations for chattel slavery in the US I can pull up some resources.

African-Americans have way higher living standards and income than Africans though. I know very few who would have rather be born in Kongo or Zimbabwe.

Re: Google adds "Black-owned" business attribute to local listings

#114

Post by paulcole »

radegast wrote: post #80
paulcole wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Am I now supposed to consider the skin color of the business owner before shopping there? Yes! You’re getting it!

Why though? Wouldn't that be racist?

"Not seeing" race denies systemic racism.

https://www.oprahmag.com/life/relationships-love/a32824297/c...

Re: Google adds "Black-owned" business attribute to local listings

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Post by ralfd »

zapita wrote: post #90
bloody-crow wrote: post #78

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> The dominant form of racism, invented in Europe and exported all over the world via colonization and slavery, is built on the concept of a biologically superior "white" race. That sounds like bullshit honestly. I haven't seen any evidence that white people specifically have "invented" racism instead of being a position of power for the most part. There's plenty of evidence that racism existed throughout the history…

> That sounds like bullshit honestly. It sounds that way to you because it goes against your beliefs. It doesn’t mean it’s wrong... > I haven't seen any evidence that white people specifically have "invented" racism instead of being a position of power for the most part. If you read History books, you will find plenty of evidence. It’s not hard to find. Nothing I wrote is particularly controversial among historians.…

> Yes, Europeans conquered most of the world

... and invented humanism and outlawed slavery (worldwide!) and decolonized their own empires. This is pretty remarkable and unique in history.

Re: Google adds "Black-owned" business attribute to local listings

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Post by baryphonic »

GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #112
monoideism wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of us understand the "anti-racist" philosophy. We just don't agree with it. BTW, it's the height of passive aggressiveness to use this rhetorical trick of naming things (antifa, anti-racist) in such a way that you use the very name to shame people. I mean, meet my new group: the anti-evil collective. What's that? You're don't agree with us? Well, you're against evil, aren't you? Are you some kind of a demon, or…

So, you claim to understand "anti-racism", but don't agree with it. And yet you're complaining about the name? I'm sure if you understood the philosophy then you would be able to articulate your issues with it, rather than just complaining about something superficial. I'm guessing you're also against (but understand, ha) feminism too? but just don't like that it sounds like it's just for women.

Or maybe he doesn't want to waste the time writing a dissertation-length critique as a comment on an Internet news aggregator? The name being pretentious and tendentious is a quick heuristic to determine that the overall ideology is nonsense.

Re: Google adds "Black-owned" business attribute to local listings

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Post by X6S1x6Okd1st »

ralfd wrote: post #113
X6S1x6Okd1st wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an absurd standard. People successfully sue for fraud all the time, not just against the person that first invented fraud. If you'd like to learn more about the case for reparations for chattel slavery in the US I can pull up some resources.

African-Americans have way higher living standards and income than Africans though. I know very few who would have rather be born in Kongo or Zimbabwe.

Could you elaborate on what your argument is?

Re: Google adds "Black-owned" business attribute to local listings

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Post by zapita »

ralfd wrote: post #115
zapita wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That sounds like bullshit honestly. It sounds that way to you because it goes against your beliefs. It doesn’t mean it’s wrong... > I haven't seen any evidence that white people specifically have "invented" racism instead of being a position of power for the most part. If you read History books, you will find plenty of evidence. It’s not hard to find. Nothing I wrote is particularly controversial among historians.…

> Yes, Europeans conquered most of the world ... and invented humanism and outlawed slavery (worldwide!) and decolonized their own empires. This is pretty remarkable and unique in history.

How is this relevant to the topic being discussed?
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