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Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Wait, so I'm going to have to install the TikTok For Business with Sharepoint integration in my Teams? I guess anything makes sense to a company that paid $26 billion USD for LinkedIn.

Jokes aside, it probably would be a nice addition to their consumer-oriented portfolio (i.e. xbox, minecraft, etc), if they're planning to stay relevant in the FAANG-taking-over-the-world state of reality these days.

Microsoft is more relevant than a few companies in the FAANG list.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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> It would help address the spyware concern by moving it to a US company Does anyone else remember when housing data in US severs was considered less private than alternatives? It’s incredible that Azure, and the rest of the us based cloud providers, have been able to rebrand American severs as the cloud so successfully that they are well known for being secure and safe.

Every major cloud vendor has zones outside the US. Just because you’re hosted on Azure doesn’t mean you’re hosted in the US or that US law applies to you.

My understanding of the 2018 CLOUD act is that a US headquartered cloud vendor must hand over subpoenaed customer data even if the datacentre is outside the USA.

https://www.dlapiper.com/en/us/insights/publications/2018/04...

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Market cap is actually a quite precise estimation of what company offers to the world. Money is just information about usefulness. If you are useful to other people you've got money. If someone is useful to you, you give money.

Like Theranos?

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Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Market cap is actually a quite precise estimation of what company offers to the world. Money is just information about usefulness. If you are useful to other people you've got money. If someone is useful to you, you give money.

Exactly. Unfortunately we humans have a tendency to believe that we can understand what's useful for the rest of the people better than themselves.

So parenting isn't useful and children should pay their parents? - Just to show that there are other factors at play as well and not all can be measured in money.

To go back to the Microsoft case: They played the market well, that there are no alternatives in some areas and a new owner has hardly a chance to go there.

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I think its more of the rebranding from US-gov spying to Chinese-gov spying

Agree. I'm curious if it becoming a US-owned app means it would struggle in China.

In China they have a separate app owned by ByteDance called Douyin - in fact iirc TikTok was an aquisition that they then modeled after Douyin

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> America is a fundamentally revolutionary nation fighting for global democracy. I've studied the history of the US enough to know that this is brazen propaganda with no firm basis in reality. The US has no problem propping up brutal tyrants when it's convenient.

There are far more Democracies supported by the US in numerous ways in the post WWII period than totalitarians supported. This is fact.

Correct, the US doesn't only support totalitarians. However, it does support them. The US support for democracy isn't based on principles is my point, it's based on convenience, and the US will merrily crush a democracy and install a dictator if it's in US interests.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Jokes aside, it probably would be a nice addition to their consumer-oriented portfolio (i.e. xbox, minecraft, etc), if they're planning to stay relevant in the FAANG-taking-over-the-world state of reality these days.

Steve Jobs once said about Microsoft that their only problem is that they have no taste. And it's decisions like this that illustrate what he meant. TikTok is such a clash with everything Microsoft stands for as a company (if there is such a thing). It makes no sense.

I agree with you if looking at this from a historical perspective. However, l can see this working out for MS if TikTok remains a wholly owned, but independently operated subsidiary. If they buy it and largely 'leave it alone' to continue with its own leadership team and operational independence (as it seems github has been allowed to), I can see it being a net gain for MS and TikTok. The integration plan would make or break this (rumored) acquisition.

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This honestly would take the cake for for stupidest purchase ever. I couldn't think of a way to lose money faster. Maybe they should also purchase Snapchat too.

> This honestly would take the cake for for stupidest purchase ever. I couldn't think of a way to lose money faster.

No comment on the potential TikTok acquisition by MSFT from me, but your quote reminds me of a lot of HN comments and opinions I heard elsewhere, but regarding Zuck and his WhatsApp and Instagram acquisition.

Everyone was pretty much clowning him as figuratively the dumbest man on earth who was simply lucky to make a ton of money off Facebook, who now was just throwing that money around at random acquisitions without having any idea what he was doing. A lot of people were also saying that it was all just out of desperation on his end, given that Facebook was going to die any moment soon. Six years later, most people agree that it was one of the smartest decisions he could've made.

In a similar vein, think back to when MSFT acquired Minecraft.

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Is there any precedence where the executive branch just ban a foreign company without citing the violation of law and going through court or WTO, in the last century?

Yep -> "That order marked the sixth time a U.S. president has either blocked a deal or ordered a corporate selloff since Congress authorized the power to intervene in 1988." WSJ - https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-to-sign-order-demanding-c... I don't know the details of the others, but one that comes to mind (and maybe is mentioned in the article?) is the blocked acquisition of Qualcomm by Broadcom. -edit- The circu…

> I don't see the WTO being involved when China forces majority-owned joint ventures

Did you check? https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/dispu_e/cases_e/ds549_e...

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| give them a better foothold in Social Networking than Linked-in provides. So you're saying that GitHub isn't a social network for coding?

Github is not a social network, and is should never be one.

I completely agree. My snarky comment was in reference to GitHub's marketing emphasis a few years ago on "social coding".

https://docs.github.com/en/github/getting-started-with-githu...

https://medium.com/glitch/github-glitch-and-the-future-of-so...

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