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Re: Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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Post by newacct583 »

kolbe wrote: post #210
Taek wrote: post #131

Hitting a 17yo with 30 felony charges feels a bit steep to me. Also should any repercussions be considered against Twitter that a 17yo was able to gain access to the private messages of potentially some of the most important individuals in the world? If a 17yo could do it, I'm sure a nation state could do it.

I agree this bothers me to my core. Even the 22 year old hasn't developed a fully functional neocortex. I know it seems a little hypocritical of me for getting sad when this happens to a young programmer and not an inner city gang member, but it does. To pull off a hack like this is indicative of these kids being intelligent, risky and bold. Yeah, they went where they shouldn't, but I personally think these are the t…

> To pull off a hack like this is indicative of these kids being intelligent, risky and bold. Yeah, they went where they shouldn't

They engaged in straight up fraud! It's not like they just pranked some folks, they tried to fool the world into sending them money. It's true the fraud didn't work that well (or rather, not in relation to the severity of the Twitter hack), but they still stole some $100kUS or whatever.

You want those people LEADING us "into the future of science"?

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Post by function_seven »

_jjkk wrote: post #161
nightcracker wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do all these prompts use doublespeak so blatantly? It's actually insane. "Your privacy matters to us." -> Then why are you asking me to give it up? If my privacy mattered to you you wouldn't even ask to install tracking cookies and gather my data.

It's not doublespeak. What would you have the message say? It's a legacy site and they haven't finished implementing out-out-only / data-deletion / etc... I wouldn't assume malicious intent.

It's been quite awhile now since the GDRP protections have been around. If they haven't finished removing tracking by now, then they're lying when they say "your privacy matters to us".

No, it doesn't. If it mattered, then you would act like it.

Re: Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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Post by etrabroline »

nordsieck wrote: post #212
gregschlom wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is not the point that the parent comment is making, though. It's not whether it's bad for someone to commit this crime, it's whether Twitter should be held liable for such poor security practices that a 17 year old can hack them.

> It's not whether it's bad for someone to commit this crime, it's whether Twitter should be held liable for such poor security practices that a 17 year old can hack them. That is exactly my point. There are tons of crimes that basically anyone can do. If you said instead: people whose houses are set on fire by an arsonist should be liable for poor security, at the very least you'd not be taken very seriously. There…

>There is no duty to avoid being the victim of a crime

If you entrust a bank with 10 thousand dollars, and the bank puts your money in a paper bag and leaves it in the lobby, they are going to be held liable if someone walks away with it. Twitter letting teenagers steal people's data is approaching that level of negligence for a mutli-billion dollar company.

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Post by user5994461 »

bcohen5055 wrote: post #211
threatofrain wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also should any repercussions be considered against Twitter that a 17yo was able to gain access to the private messages of potentially some of the most important individuals in the world? Is the suggestion that if your security is weak, at least some of the blame goes to the hacked? If your home security is weak, should we grant more leniency to a burglar? The insurance company should be the one to punish the riski…

Not a home but if you were a bank and a 17 year old walked into the bank, talked to someone and was able to walk out with a fat stack of cash i think the insurance company would have to reconsider your policy.

Absolutely any 17 year old can walk into a bank/shop and get out with cash. Preferably armed and not alone.

The challenge is to get out and never be caught.

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Post by mrtksn »

alexander1100 wrote: post #170

I personally lost $6000 dollars, is there any way I could prove that I was a victim and get my crypto back?

Can you please tell us how did you fall to this scam? I find it fascinating when something seems obvious to me but not to someone else and vice versa.

Re: Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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Post by mehrdadn »

user5994461 wrote: post #226
gregschlom wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is not the point that the parent comment is making, though. It's not whether it's bad for someone to commit this crime, it's whether Twitter should be held liable for such poor security practices that a 17 year old can hack them.

The same point stands with the car, any 17 year old could borrow their parents car and drive into a crowd. It's not the fault of the car owner for not securing their car. Security is not preventing people from doing things, it's having some limitations so it's not too easily too quickly (cars are protected by keys, accounts by passwords). Anybody motivated can and will bypass security easily.

> It's not the fault of the car owner for not securing their car.

Securing their car against... their children? Or distributing the car's keys to 2,000 people?

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Post by Shared404 »

varenc wrote: post #172

> "Washington DC Field Office Cyber Crimes Unit analyzed the blockchain and de-anonymized bitcoin transactions allowing for the identification of two different hackers"

Got to love government knowledge of tech.

This is the set of people that legislators listen to. I think we may be screwed.

Re: Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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Post by Jabbles »

Taek wrote: post #131

Hitting a 17yo with 30 felony charges feels a bit steep to me. Also should any repercussions be considered against Twitter that a 17yo was able to gain access to the private messages of potentially some of the most important individuals in the world? If a 17yo could do it, I'm sure a nation state could do it.

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