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Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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Re: Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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post #22

No where in the article it mentions how did they nail him or how did he do. With Twitter saying that this entire process was done by social engineering some employee and then gaining system access of others by monitoring the process - this seems to have been done by someone with Corporate process understanding and hard to believe it could be a 18 yold.

Seems to me that a person sophisticated enough to social engineer Twitter employees is probably sophisticated enough to social engineer a Tampa teen into place for taking a fall. To me state level targets suggest state level actors and Twitter has been mucking about with state level political operations since at least the Arab Spring almost a decade ago.

Twitter has a lot of powerful people and organizations who have suffered discomfort at its hands. It is hard to swallow the thesis that a Tampa teen succeeded where intelligence agencies have failed despite years of efforts.

Re: Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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post #65

This is all I can see on this page : This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area while we work to ensure your data is protected in accordance with applicable EU laws. It should not be this complicated to respect laws that just enforce minimal good practices. A replacement link should be found for this story. Wfla dot com is clearly shit.

> It should not be this complicated to respect laws that just enforce minimal good practices.

It's not necessarily the compliance that's the issue, it can also be figuring out how to comply. IANAL, and I can't guarantee to myself that I can implement a site with policies that comply correctly. Better to just geoblock, because it's not necessarily worth the lawyer fees.

Re: Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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I'm not really surprised.

* the attacker (allegedly) bragged to the press * the attack only involved phising and social engineering. (Its a bit unclear, but that's what it looks like)

Bragging to the press is a definite sign of someone doing it for the lulz. Criminals know better than to brag about their crimes publicly, that is how you get caught. Bragging definitely fits into the sterotypical motivation for most teenage hackers.

Social engineering is a skill, but its also a skill that a smart teenager is likely to have. Its not a super high sophistication attack. Its not a spy movie attack where people are breaking into offices, coercing employees, finding 0-days in the webserver etc. Its an attack that a dedicated teen could teach themselves and pull off themselves, no special resources needed.

Re: Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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post #81
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's just unfortunate that the various channels like HackerOne[0] or wherever the skiddies flock to these days are not utilized thoroughly. A lot of the bug bounty programs don't pay as well as using exploits to steal money. Some estimates put this particular breach at having netted upwards of $120k. I don't think I've ever seen a bug bounty that high. The highest I've ever heard of or see documentation describing…

The opposite thing is true; people have wildly inflated expectations of how much money marginal bugs like XSS can earn, or even game-over bugs in marginally important applications. And if you're doing the financial comparison, as you note, you have to do it risk-weighted. Your intuitions about the risk of exploiting a vulnerability are likely heavily biased by the fact that most exploitation, or at least most of the…

I remember being 17. I was spectacularly bad at evaluating risks.

You're right - a lot of people who want to file bug bounties overestimate how much marginal ones are worth. At the same time, this scenario suggests to me that bug bounties aren't currently doing a good job of incentivizing people away from attempting to monetize significant exploits and towards more responsible security practices. If we have to depend on the risk analyses of teenagers, we may be in trouble.

Which is to say I suspect we have both problems.

Re: Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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post #17

Interesting to see that he's being charged in Florida, instead of federally. I mean yes, normally, when one commits a crime in a particular area, they're charged in that area. But my understanding is that once stuff crosses state lines, it becomes a federal issue, and this is part of why its usually the FBI that comes knocking.

I would think federal charges will follow.

Re: Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Florida has some of the most permissive laws about mugshots and criminal info. The reason for the "Florida Man" meme is not that people in Florida are more weird than anywhere else, just that it's easier to find the mugshots online.

I always thought this was for precisely the oppposite - i.e. that news headlines (edit: I mean whole articles) were more often "A Florida Man has been arrested" because they were not allowed/didn't have the names.

The headline is usually "A Florida Man has been arrested" because news stations all around the country dig through Florida public records to fill space when their local news is slow. It says "Florida" because it is not local to the outlet that is publishing it. Local news usually says "local man" or specifies a locality.

Re: Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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post #43

Probably could have earned a lot more from his exploits if he went the formal route and directly confronted Twitter. But then who even knows if Twitter are a good 'first responder' when it comes to high-profile exploits of their system. There was a recent post about some researcher who exposed flaws in Tor's architecture (which allowed third parties to detect Tor traffic easily) and Tor's staff didn't respond; so she…

He allegedly social engineered access. The vast majority of bug bounties i have seen consider this out of scope.

Also do x or i release the sploit could be considered extortion if you word it wrong, and then you are in all sorts of additional trouble

Re: Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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post #22

No where in the article it mentions how did they nail him or how did he do. With Twitter saying that this entire process was done by social engineering some employee and then gaining system access of others by monitoring the process - this seems to have been done by someone with Corporate process understanding and hard to believe it could be a 18 yold.

It's doubtful that he actually did it. Probably just a teen groomed by a cracking group; the group gets away with the deed by leaving a paper trail pointing to the teen (that will get a reduced prison sentence) and the teen gets PR which will inevitably lead to a well-paying job.

I'm with you on this, he's probably a fall guy who's "caught" because he "confessed" or something like that. Two reasons for this; one, Twitter isn't exactly the kind of joint you stroll into and take over, it's not really an amateur operation and people are attacking it all the time. Second, coordinating all this work is not a simple one-person job. The timing of the attack suggests lots of coordination, practice, or both. Could one kid do it? Maybe, but highly improbable. And if it turns out this kid did do it, the CIA is going to find a way to own his ass basically forever.

Re: Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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post #99

"Our European visitors are important to us. This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area while we work to ensure your data is protected in accordance with applicable EU laws." nice

[cost of compliance] > [revenue from EU visitors]
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