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Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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Isn't that how Dickens wrote at least one classic novel? The history of creative endeavors if rife with short deadlines.

And that’s also how you hear about how much writers hate writing and are only happy when handing in a manuscript for publication. (See: Vonnegut)

Can you provide a link or source for Vonnegut on the subject? I'm interested.

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> The music isn’t your product, the music is your marketing. The shows, the merch, your influence - that’s your product. Man, that's depressing.

>> The music isn’t your product, the music is your marketing. The shows, the merch, your influence - that’s your product. > Man, that's depressing. If the CEO of an open-source company said, "Software isn't our product, software is our marketing", would you feel the same way?

isn't this true now for gaming?

With the success of things like Fortnite seeing games being released for free and relying on the DLC's and skins and rewards as the product.

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> The music isn’t your product, the music is your marketing. The shows, the merch, your influence - that’s your product. Man, that's depressing.

>> The music isn’t your product, the music is your marketing. The shows, the merch, your influence - that’s your product. > Man, that's depressing. If the CEO of an open-source company said, "Software isn't our product, software is our marketing", would you feel the same way?

Music is different from software in my mind.

Software, with rare exceptions, is solving a problem—music is not.

Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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I disagree. Musicians can do whatever they want. Not very many musicians spend their time riding a perpetual wave that they have to continually feed. Spotify benefits the most from this churn.

> Musicians can do whatever they want.

They can, but only as long as they don't care about money. But musicians also need to pay rent.

Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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>> The music isn’t your product, the music is your marketing. The shows, the merch, your influence - that’s your product. > Man, that's depressing. If the CEO of an open-source company said, "Software isn't our product, software is our marketing", would you feel the same way?

It's not comparable - music is art.

The implication in your comment is that code isn't art, when code absolutely can be art. Functional things can be artistically beautiful too.

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Obviously the guy knows nothing about creativity and art. It takes time to grow as a person and cultivate new ideas. It may not be possible to do that if you don't get in and out of whatever it is you're doing. Imagine telling Hemingway he has to release a new blog post every week instead of a book every couple of years.

"What's he going to record a song about?" "Nothing." "Spotify'll kill him." "I guess they will." "He must have got mixed up in something with the music industry." "I guess so," said Nick. "It's a hell of a thing." "It's an awful thing," Nick said. They did not say anything. George reached down for his mobile phone and wiped the screen. "I wonder what he did?" Nick said. "Failed to write enough songs fast enough to ge…

Ha! I recently picked up a old gift someone made to me of a book of Hemingway short stories -- this is quite a good approximation.

Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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So many bands lose their creative spark after the first album or two, and it's exactly because of this mentality. I'd rather have one album of music carefully curated over 4 years than four albums than have 4 albums rushed out over a year. The creative process takes time. If you just rush out the next album you're probably just adding onto the already massive heap of formulaic uninspired music. I'm not saying you can't have quality AND quantity, but the number of bands who can crank out both is limited.

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>> The music isn’t your product, the music is your marketing. The shows, the merch, your influence - that’s your product. > Man, that's depressing. If the CEO of an open-source company said, "Software isn't our product, software is our marketing", would you feel the same way?

It's not comparable - music is art.

I think you will find many here who would argue that code can be art, too.

The thing that people don't realize is that it is in fact quite comparable: the binary that one works with to hear a song is not intrinsically worth any more than the same bytes that produce a software application. I'm a musician who now primarily makes music with code. [0] I've decided therefore to always make my music available for free, without exception. We all agree software can and often should be free - music, to me, is exactly the same way.

[0] https://multipli.city

Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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> The music isn’t your product, the music is your marketing. The shows, the merch, your influence - that’s your product. Man, that's depressing.

>> The music isn’t your product, the music is your marketing. The shows, the merch, your influence - that’s your product. > Man, that's depressing. If the CEO of an open-source company said, "Software isn't our product, software is our marketing", would you feel the same way?

What if they said, "Our product isn't our software, our product is our marketing"? This makes more sense because there can me many products offering the same service, but the one with the best marketing can win, even if it's not the best software.
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