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> Jerry Yang is Taiwanese...the cultural commitment to suffering is hard to explain...I can imagine he may feel like his employees should be grateful for the opportunity to exhibit their suffering. Aaaand stuff like this is exactly why I say Asians face racism in tech and need to push back against the idea that they are "overrepresented" [1]. I really hope that if I'm in a management position, my reports don't feel l…

Culture does contribute to management style and you're being really weirdly politically correct in not accepting it.

It does, for sure! Culture is one of the facets that can contribute to your management style along with a ton of socioeconomic factors.

My point is that this often works negatively against Asians, especially in management in a way that it doesn't for other racial groups.

Like you're way more likely to see people being okay with casually saying “Jerry Yang is Asian, therefore he overworks his employees” than say “Marvin Ellison is Black, therefore ” in a conversation. That comment was up for more than five hours before I said something about it.

I think this is a problem. It's nowhere on the same scale as some of the problems that other minorities face across America. But in my opinion, it's important enough to call out occasionally.

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For future reference, this is what the page says as of this HN post: http://web.archive.org/web/20200729083406/http://del.icio.us... > July 15, 2020 > Hi, my name is Maciej Ceglowski, the latest (and hopefully last) owner of del.icio.us. > The site will be back online soon. If you had data stored on del.icio.us after 2010, you'll be able to export it here. > [...] > You can reach me at maciej@ceglowski.com I also hop…

Isn't this the guy that runs delicious's excellent successor Pinboard.io ?? I have been using pinboard ever since adn it's been a great service.

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> Jerry Yang is Taiwanese...the cultural commitment to suffering is hard to explain...I can imagine he may feel like his employees should be grateful for the opportunity to exhibit their suffering. Aaaand stuff like this is exactly why I say Asians face racism in tech and need to push back against the idea that they are "overrepresented" [1]. I really hope that if I'm in a management position, my reports don't feel l…

Since you want references, is survey data acceptable? https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3415130 how about forums? https://www.reddit.com/r/taiwan/comments/6aa3x9/what_is_wron... News reports? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-16834258 > Jerry Yang came to American when he was 10 years old, around 4th grade So ... his parents dropped their culture at the shoreline? You know, there really are differences between…

My point was that “Asians face racism”, because their culture is used to casually make stereotypes like this which may not be accurate.

If your boss is from Texas and they're overworking you, is your first reaction to pull out survey data about how 50% of Texans believe in suffering as a form of atonement? Or is it just to say “What a jerk”? When people talk about Peter Thiel, how many times do they link his behaviors to elements of German culture and history?

By all means, if Jerry Yang was overworking his employees, call it out on the basis of him overworking his employees! But I don't want to be stereotyped and targeted because of something people in the place I originally came from do. It could very well be that Jerry Yang's parents came to America to escape the overworking culture, and therefore he has a keener sense of not overworking his employees than the average American has. Maybe that's why he didn't fire people that stop showing up to work! You have no way of knowing, and you're idly speculating.

Also – I am Asian, was not born in America, and know perfectly well what fatback and the Euro are. Another data point perhaps for throwing out some notions about what people may or may not know.

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> Jerry Yang is Taiwanese...the cultural commitment to suffering is hard to explain...I can imagine he may feel like his employees should be grateful for the opportunity to exhibit their suffering. Aaaand stuff like this is exactly why I say Asians face racism in tech and need to push back against the idea that they are "overrepresented" [1]. I really hope that if I'm in a management position, my reports don't feel l…

Culture does contribute to management style and you're being really weirdly politically correct in not accepting it.

The average person doesn't know or care what culture Jerry Yang grew up in or identifies with. He could associate himself with American hip-hop culture for all we know. So assuming Jerry Yang has the same culture as someone else because they're both racially Taiwanese is incorrect and there is nothing "really weird" about pointing that out.

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Read it again. It's not a stereotype. It's his personal observation.

It's literally “My boss has this attitude. My boss is Taiwanese. Jerry Yang is Taiwanese. Therefore, Jerry Yang has this attitude.” It is exactly nationality-based stereotyping, based on a single example.

I cannot see the original comment, but reading your comment, I cannot help solving the equation and determining he works for Jerry Yang.

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I was wondering if anyone was going to point this out. I can remember digg being bigger than everything besides maybe stumbleupon for a short while when it came to bookmarking sites.I never would have imagined reddit being what it is now.

I miss the days when big sites/companies would sometimes go under.

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What kind of idiot pays more than they owe in taxes? I'm sure you don't either. I don't know why some people seem to expect that of billionaires. It's not rational behavior for them or anyone else, so why do you think they should be behaving that way. I've seen this more than a couple times in HN comments and it always befuddled me.

I don't think they should pay more than they owe, and I'm not sure why you interpreted it that way. (Though I have paid more than I'm required to sometimes because of the pain of dealing with records and filing. Struggle with it until it gets to an acceptable level, then just pay to be done with it). But Gates and Buffett both say that they SHOULD be paying more in taxes - but they don't. So what they're really sayin…

Reading it again, I think I must have missed "However, in support of your point" which changes the meaning.

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post #458

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marginal utility is much higher for the government (and the public) than for you

I think that statement is backwards. Are you asserting that the government (and the public) will get more utility (benefit) from the extra 1 dollar on its $2.7 billion budget (increase of .000 000 04 percent), than I would from the extra dollar in my net annual income (on the order of a thousandth of a percent)? That's a pretty incredible contention.

On a per-dollar basis, you indeed get more marginal utility from the extra dollar than the government would.

But on a percentage basis (in a progressive taxation scheme, and especially in the higher tax brackets) the government gets more marginal utility from a 1% tax increase than you would from a 1% tax break.

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#510

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You can at least draw a line from Delicious to Reddit. Digg was originally modelled on the "popular" section of Delicious, an example of building a product out of a feature. Then Reddit saw a huge boost from the eventual Digg community exodus, after a time when Digg itself was the cultural nerve centre.

I was wondering if anyone was going to point this out. I can remember digg being bigger than everything besides maybe stumbleupon for a short while when it came to bookmarking sites.I never would have imagined reddit being what it is now.

funny thing is that I actually use Digg more now than I did before its implosion.

it's cleaner, nicer, and no comments. Refreshing.

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