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Post by glenstein »

ghaff wrote: post #259
glenstein wrote: post #231

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I think the most obvious example I would add to this list you are thinking of would be livejournal. I also had a handful of SoundCloud-like medium scale music sites that I went to, like Purevolume. I also remember this as a time when Google didn't yet have a reputation for abandoning everything they touched, so you could get inspired by, say, Google Knol or Google Wave. I had hope that Google Reader might grow into s…

There are no real barriers to blogging or using an RSS reader if you want to. (RSS feeds are less ubiquitous than they used to be but they're still common.) And, of course, for saving and sharing bookmarks, it's Pinboard that's buying del.icio.us. I never really tried out Wave but Knol suffered from the problem you'd expect if everyone gets to write their own self-promotional competing article on a topic.

>There are no real barriers to blogging or using an RSS reader if you want to. (RSS feeds are less ubiquitous than they used to be but they're still common.)

I'm perfectly aware of this and have used RSS feeds on a daily basis for more than a decade, so I'm not sure what's being suggested here.

Re: Del.icio.us

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Post by hhsuey »

masukomi wrote: post #418
hhsuey wrote: post #383

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Thanks for sharing. Random thoughts/questions: How do you compare this with using Google Chrome's ecosystem with bookmarks? Or any other browser with bookmarks stored in the cloud? Is there any plugin that can allow search results in a browser's address bar to show the bookmarks from pinboard.in?

chrome's bookmarks aren't available to me across browsers, and I can't use tags to search them. They don't load any faster than Pinboard's either (which is kinda mind-boggling). not having them across browsers makes them a non-starter (ditto for Firefox plugins) Not having them across accounts makes them a non-starter (work account vs personal account). Not being able to tag them and thus find the thing that i rememb…

Nice. Makes sense! Thank you!

Re: Del.icio.us

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Post by coffeefirst »

searchableguy wrote: post #271
crazygringo wrote: post #258

Not to rain on the parade, but serious question: are bookmarks actually useful anymore? It's funny, I'm trying to remember when I simply stopped using bookmarks. 5 years ago, maybe? 10? I'm not entirely sure. I used to have elaborate folder hierachies of bookmarks in my browser. But at some point, I realized anytime I needed something, it was faster to just type a keyword or two in the address bar. Either it was ther…

I am working on something similar. Bookmarks are still usable because Google is pretty bad for some obscure queries and they work as a reminder more for me. Search engines require active discovery. You can find most of the links posted here on HN. Why have HN? It's curated, have social elements and passive. You just sit back and click rather than coming up with something interesting to search for. I am still surprise…

Google is also useless for overly common queries.

I've been doing a lot of cooking. Trying to find anything you've found searching for recipes is just wading through a swamp of blogs, spam, and impractical nonsense. If you find anything you want to try, you'll never find it again.

On the other hand, if I tag all the stuff I might consider in pinboard with my own descriptions, I'm starting with a subset that's just the 4-5 pages I was looking at before.

Re: Del.icio.us

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Post by brigandish »

audiometry wrote: post #459
palotasb wrote: post #9

For future reference, this is what the page says as of this HN post: http://web.archive.org/web/20200729083406/http://del.icio.us... > July 15, 2020 > Hi, my name is Maciej Ceglowski, the latest (and hopefully last) owner of del.icio.us. > The site will be back online soon. If you had data stored on del.icio.us after 2010, you'll be able to export it here. > [...] > You can reach me at maciej@ceglowski.com I also hop…

Isn't this the guy that runs delicious's excellent successor Pinboard.io ?? I have been using pinboard ever since adn it's been a great service.

https://pinboard.in/ (pinboard.io is apparently someone else's and up for sale - if it's yours, nicely done;)

Re: Del.icio.us

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Post by quadrifoliate »

killjoywashere wrote: post #427
vidarh wrote: post #322

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I led the European billing engineering team[1] at Yahoo 2003-2005. We processed millions of dollars worth of payments for European premium services every year, so we had a very clear idea of our value to the business, and I had to deal with that exact same thing when we needed a server upgrade once in that three year period that cost a fraction of what I got approved in bonuses for my team every year. Afterwards I tr…

Jerry Yang is Taiwanese. I'd like to think I work hard, but my current boss is of Taiwanese extraction. The cultural commitment to suffering is hard to explain. My usual joke with her is asking if she slept well on her bed of nails. I can imagine he may feel like his employees should be grateful for the opportunity to exhibit their suffering.

> Jerry Yang is Taiwanese...the cultural commitment to suffering is hard to explain...I can imagine he may feel like his employees should be grateful for the opportunity to exhibit their suffering.

Aaaand stuff like this is exactly why I say Asians face racism in tech and need to push back against the idea that they are "overrepresented" [1]. I really hope that if I'm in a management position, my reports don't feel like I have "cultural commitment that they should be grateful for their suffering" or some such tripe.

Oh, and never mind that apparently this is the same company that one of the parent comments is saying was "too nice" because it didn't let an employee go even after they stopped showing up. You really have to work hard to explain that one with an Asian cultural commitment to suffering, eh?

I would sincerely suggest to 'killjoywashere that they try saying out the same thing loudly about another minority (say Black people) based on some characteristic they were born with and see how it goes over. Better still, think a little bit about whether you have racist biases if this is your view on things, and maybe try to correct it.

> My usual joke with her is asking if she slept well on her bed of nails.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say your boss probably doesn't actually appreciate being asked stuff like that all the time. She likely just doesn't want to invite trouble by complaining about it.

Oh, and a cursory Wikipedia search reveals that Jerry Yang came to American when he was 10 years old, around 4th grade [2].

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[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23541590

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Yang

Re: Del.icio.us

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Post by dragonwriter »

reaperducer wrote: post #455
tamade wrote: post #450

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Stereotype much?

Read it again. It's not a stereotype. It's his personal observation.

It's literally “My boss has this attitude. My boss is Taiwanese. Jerry Yang is Taiwanese. Therefore, Jerry Yang has this attitude.”

It is exactly nationality-based stereotyping, based on a single example.

Re: Del.icio.us

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Post by kbutler »

eloff wrote: post #436
kbutler wrote: post #391

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While I agree this is common human nature, 1) you seem to be speculating about billionaires without actual evidence, even anecdotal, and 2) individuals differ - some may have the maturity and perspective not to worry about it. However, in support of your point, while Bill Gates and Warren Buffett both say billionaires and other "better off" people should pay more taxes, to my knowledge, they haven't been unilaterally…

What kind of idiot pays more than they owe in taxes? I'm sure you don't either. I don't know why some people seem to expect that of billionaires. It's not rational behavior for them or anyone else, so why do you think they should be behaving that way. I've seen this more than a couple times in HN comments and it always befuddled me.

I don't think they should pay more than they owe, and I'm not sure why you interpreted it that way. (Though I have paid more than I'm required to sometimes because of the pain of dealing with records and filing. Struggle with it until it gets to an acceptable level, then just pay to be done with it).

But Gates and Buffett both say that they SHOULD be paying more in taxes - but they don't. So what they're really saying is, all those other guys (the "well off") should pay more, and then they'd pay more, too.

This supports the original poster's contention that the billionaires would seek that tax break (for "fairness") even if they didn't need it.

Re: Del.icio.us

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Post by jaifraic »

0xdeadbeefbabe wrote: post #312
_jal wrote: post #247

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The cool thing is that cheat detection/unfairness detection seems to happen at the semantic level of reasoning. You can see this with kids - one example I recall is a friend's 5 year old being upset at seeing another kid with ice cream. $Parent said it was that kid's birthday (who knows), and her kid immediately got over it. So if only billionaires were human, we could just suggest their semantic categories were wron…

Maybe something about a previous life?

I'm fairly sure "it's their birthday, so they get a tax break" won't work.

Re: Del.icio.us

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Post by kbutler »

mbay wrote: post #458
eloff wrote: post #436

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What kind of idiot pays more than they owe in taxes? I'm sure you don't either. I don't know why some people seem to expect that of billionaires. It's not rational behavior for them or anyone else, so why do you think they should be behaving that way. I've seen this more than a couple times in HN comments and it always befuddled me.

marginal utility is much higher for the government (and the public) than for you

I think that statement is backwards.

Are you asserting that the government (and the public) will get more utility (benefit) from the extra 1 dollar on its $2.7 billion budget (increase of .000 000 04 percent), than I would from the extra dollar in my net annual income (on the order of a thousandth of a percent)?

That's a pretty incredible contention.

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Post by baix777 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #466
reaperducer wrote: post #455

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read it again. It's not a stereotype. It's his personal observation.

It's literally “My boss has this attitude. My boss is Taiwanese. Jerry Yang is Taiwanese. Therefore, Jerry Yang has this attitude.” It is exactly nationality-based stereotyping, based on a single example.

This type of thinking, and the inability to see it even when pointed out, is why we have BLM.
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