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Post by joshu »

crazygringo wrote: post #258

Not to rain on the parade, but serious question: are bookmarks actually useful anymore? It's funny, I'm trying to remember when I simply stopped using bookmarks. 5 years ago, maybe? 10? I'm not entirely sure. I used to have elaborate folder hierachies of bookmarks in my browser. But at some point, I realized anytime I needed something, it was faster to just type a keyword or two in the address bar. Either it was ther…

someone has felt the need to ask this exact question every time delicious came up since the first time i showed it to anyone in 2003

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Post by 0xdeadbeefbabe »

_jal wrote: post #247
bshacklett wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just humans. This behavior seems to go pretty deep: https://phys.org/news/2017-02-animals-unfairly-dont.html

The cool thing is that cheat detection/unfairness detection seems to happen at the semantic level of reasoning. You can see this with kids - one example I recall is a friend's 5 year old being upset at seeing another kid with ice cream. $Parent said it was that kid's birthday (who knows), and her kid immediately got over it. So if only billionaires were human, we could just suggest their semantic categories were wron…

Maybe something about a previous life?

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Post by latexr »

flocial wrote: post #134

This is probably one of my favorite developments coming from the quarantine. Maciej Ceglowski is a keeper of the torch reminding us of what the web used to be: a weird place filled with weird people who were guided by curious intellects and a belief that the internet can and would liberate us in some strange and amazing way. Before social media amplified celebrity worship and extreme positions, everyone's voice on th…

> This is probably one of my favorite developments coming from the quarantine.

Maciej bought Delicious in 2017 and always planned to let people recover their bookmarks.

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Post by hundchenkatze »

benibela wrote: post #170
iso1631 wrote: post #149

I'm shocked by the number of people calling a website founded in 2003 as "old school". That was 3 years after the dot-com bust!

We should bring back the webrings

There's a couple starting back up.

https://geekring.net/

https://weirdwidewebring.net/

https://wiby.me/ (not exactly a webring)

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Post by crazygringo »

joshu wrote: post #311
crazygringo wrote: post #258

Not to rain on the parade, but serious question: are bookmarks actually useful anymore? It's funny, I'm trying to remember when I simply stopped using bookmarks. 5 years ago, maybe? 10? I'm not entirely sure. I used to have elaborate folder hierachies of bookmarks in my browser. But at some point, I realized anytime I needed something, it was faster to just type a keyword or two in the address bar. Either it was ther…

someone has felt the need to ask this exact question every time delicious came up since the first time i showed it to anyone in 2003

But the popularity of Delicious then was proof that it was useful. It was a major internet destination.

Today there's no similarly popular equivalent. Sure general-purpose social URL bookmarking sites still exist but they're niche, not mainstream.

So thanks for trying to invalidate my question, but it's not that simple.

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Post by hckr_news »

semireg wrote: post #299
duxup wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does seem like there might be room out there for things that aren't unicorns, but are sustainable / good products that can operate, even at a profit, with small teams. I always think of / mention Gumroad when I think of that: https://sahillavingia.com/reflecting I worry in the rush to the tip top we lose some good products / services / economic activity that are billion dollar wins... but are still way good ideas.

The tooling has become insanely good, so long as you trust the shoulders of the giants you’re standing on. For example, a month ago the Electron team introduced a bug that made my Microsoft Store app think it was outside the store. The users of my app were not happy - so I looked into how I could test the app “in the store” as a beta ... it’s basically an exercise in frustration. Package flights are a joke, build num…

That's pretty cool, very niche yet still an interesting concept. You should try to get on the indie hackers podcast. How's the income stream on this sort of business? And it sounds like its a 1 man/woman operation where you do handle everything from support to marketing?

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Post by throwaway1777 »

abraxas wrote: post #307
flocial wrote: post #134

This is probably one of my favorite developments coming from the quarantine. Maciej Ceglowski is a keeper of the torch reminding us of what the web used to be: a weird place filled with weird people who were guided by curious intellects and a belief that the internet can and would liberate us in some strange and amazing way. Before social media amplified celebrity worship and extreme positions, everyone's voice on th…

At what stage in its existence was Facebook in any way open? It was a walled garded from its inception - initially restricting access to college students only. In fact I never did and still do not consider Facebook as "the web". There is the web and then there is Facebook. The two just use similar technologies but live apart.

Have you heard the story of Cambridge analytica?

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Post by jcrawfordor »

crazygringo wrote: post #258

Not to rain on the parade, but serious question: are bookmarks actually useful anymore? It's funny, I'm trying to remember when I simply stopped using bookmarks. 5 years ago, maybe? 10? I'm not entirely sure. I used to have elaborate folder hierachies of bookmarks in my browser. But at some point, I realized anytime I needed something, it was faster to just type a keyword or two in the address bar. Either it was ther…

I tend to view Pinboard principally as a way to search more effectively. It's especially valuable because a lot of the things I find on the internet and want to be able to refer to later are PDFs of scans of old documents, and other kinds of things that don't really index well for searching. Basically by putting it into Pinboard and adding some metadata manually (like a correct title and description) I'm preserving my ability to easily find it via search later.

It's also been a valuable way to work with resources that I found years ago and then forgot about. Since I tag things by subject area sometimes just going through a subject tag I see some random person's personal website with extensive notes on the history of something... I found it several years ago and probably wouldn't have remembered it without having it saved.

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Post by aws_ls »

joshu wrote: post #294
whym wrote: post #25

Ask HN: Why did delicious.com fail? (2017) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15493212 After some digging, the above thread seemed like the most informative one as to what happened to Delicious (with a top comment from joshu, no less).

good thread. i like the guy explaining to me that i am wrong about what happened.

Yes, I noticed that, as well :)

So what do you think, does del.ico.us can have a second run under Pinboard creator?

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Post by JohnL4 »

zimmund wrote: post #189
JohnL4 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously, why does this question keep coming up? What am I missing?

Because it was convenient and powerful. Ever since Google Reader shut down I lost track of technology news. Yes, I can read the same sites/blogs I read before one by one, or subscribe to their newsletter, or follow them on Twitter... but it's not the same. And the tools that were available to replace Reader were always short in some aspect. Google Reader was killed in favor of Google+ (which failed horribly). After t…

How did RSS go downhill?

Other commenters in here have mentioned their readers of choice; I can add mine: NewsBlur.

Turns out RSS is still in pretty common use, as far as I can tell, unless you can point to a handful of sites that aren't using either RSS or Atom.

Invariably, when the topic of RSS comes up, someone laments its "passing", which leads me to ask (again): where is this impression coming from? Is it the mere absence of Google Reader?

Is there a social aspect I never knew about?

I see you mentioned other tools being lacking, but I know NewsBlur, at least, provides all those capabilities. (Not sure about "curating", though; maybe you could define that a bit more? There is the "blurblog", which has its very own RSS feed, which lets you surface articles you like, and there's the "save" function.)

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