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He got fired? Or moved back to SF?

Judging by the other stories I expect HR cracking down would be something “no more first class flights, only business.”

HR's issue was probably more along the lines of you're violating internal policies and probably various tax, etc. laws if you're supposedly living in one place and are actually living somewhere else--especially in a different country.

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Ask HN: Why did delicious.com fail? (2017) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15493212 After some digging, the above thread seemed like the most informative one as to what happened to Delicious (with a top comment from joshu, no less).

good thread. i like the guy explaining to me that i am wrong about what happened.

Hey Joshua! Many years ago I saw you give a presentation about del.icio.us at a web conference in London (forgot the name, organized by a guy called Ryan?)

I'd just started learning web development and going through a career change in to that world. In your presentation you came across laid back and totally unpretentious, explaining how you dropped a corporate career to focus on the site, of which I was a user at the time and loved.

You explained how you dealt with the tagging of content, that was one of the subtleties you had to figure out. And I remember you mentioning nagios. The way you explained it all made it seem pretty straightforward and fun (at the time, hope I'm not getting this wrong).

For a long time that talk, your project (and a few others) were very inspirational to me, to see how one guy could build something so awesome and be pretty successful. Stories like yours gave me a lot of drive when I was still a total noob.

Fifteen years later I'm up to my neck in code, just as driven as then and still chasing that dream. That's it, just wanted to say thanks!

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Ex-yahoo here, thought I would add my 2 cents. Yahoo under Jerry and Filo (love them both, this is not personal) had a twin culture of niceness and bureaucracy which killed us. Here are an example of each: 1. Niceness - a coworker decided to just randomly not show up for work (not WFH, just disappear occasionally). I took it to management, and was told we don’t want to hurt his feelings. 2. Bureaucracy - I left yahoo…

Marissa Mayer ruined Yahoo

... and walked out with a fortune

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I gave up on delicious a long time ago, after it has changed hands several times and the code-base had reverted to a steaming pile of pre-web-2.0 shit. The browser extensions has all mostly died a long time before, and mobile apps were non existent. I tried every replacement, but nothing was quite like delicious was in the glory days. Then raindrop.io appeared. It's another one-dev project, but it's like a polished d…

Does it support working offline only? If it can't connect to the internet, it can't spy on you.

Well, your saved bookmarks can be accessed by people you didn't not authorize (GRU...) which I guess the same applies for del.icio.us or pinboard.in (NSA and others).

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good thread. i like the guy explaining to me that i am wrong about what happened.

Hey Joshua! Many years ago I saw you give a presentation about del.icio.us at a web conference in London (forgot the name, organized by a guy called Ryan?) I'd just started learning web development and going through a career change in to that world. In your presentation you came across laid back and totally unpretentious, explaining how you dropped a corporate career to focus on the site, of which I was a user at the…

congrats!

i still have nagios nightmares.

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This sound interesting. Do you have some more details or maybe even some code somewhere? I would love to find ways to more easily identify users on here. The username, despite my best efforts, I mostly overlook or can't remember. On Forums, with Avatar images, this used to be so much simpler.

I love to think back on the early social web and consider how much we got right, particularly with forums. Presence and personality via avatars went a long way to feeling like a community in an era when the masses were still figuring out how to do that via technology. I still find chronologically ordered, flat discussion threads to be far superior to nested and vote ordered discussions.

> I still find chronologically ordered, flat discussion threads to be far superior to nested and vote ordered discussions

Yes, and not in the least because one can answer/reference multiple messages in one post, thus bringing different conversation 'branches' back together. It also provides a nice chronological order to follow the whole discussions, which is hard in nested discussions.

However, flat discussions have limits: once you have hundreds of participants, it becomes nearly impossible to follow. I estimate that the limit to more or less comfortably follow flat discussion is ~50 posts/day, or 15-30 more or less active posters.

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Ex-yahoo here, thought I would add my 2 cents. Yahoo under Jerry and Filo (love them both, this is not personal) had a twin culture of niceness and bureaucracy which killed us. Here are an example of each: 1. Niceness - a coworker decided to just randomly not show up for work (not WFH, just disappear occasionally). I took it to management, and was told we don’t want to hurt his feelings. 2. Bureaucracy - I left yahoo…

I led the European billing engineering team[1] at Yahoo 2003-2005. We processed millions of dollars worth of payments for European premium services every year, so we had a very clear idea of our value to the business, and I had to deal with that exact same thing when we needed a server upgrade once in that three year period that cost a fraction of what I got approved in bonuses for my team every year. Afterwards I tr…

Jerry Yang is Taiwanese. I'd like to think I work hard, but my current boss is of Taiwanese extraction. The cultural commitment to suffering is hard to explain. My usual joke with her is asking if she slept well on her bed of nails.

I can imagine he may feel like his employees should be grateful for the opportunity to exhibit their suffering.

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Not to rain on the parade, but serious question: are bookmarks actually useful anymore? It's funny, I'm trying to remember when I simply stopped using bookmarks. 5 years ago, maybe? 10? I'm not entirely sure. I used to have elaborate folder hierachies of bookmarks in my browser. But at some point, I realized anytime I needed something, it was faster to just type a keyword or two in the address bar. Either it was ther…

I never used delicious, but bookmarks as a general concept - keeping a URL stored somewhere for later use - I can't live without.

I use chrome for day-to-day bookmarks and some google sheets for other bookmarks.

Whether a dedicated bookmark site is useful, I don't find it useful, but some might. Especially if they don't use the same computer all the time like I do.

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Because it was convenient and powerful. Ever since Google Reader shut down I lost track of technology news. Yes, I can read the same sites/blogs I read before one by one, or subscribe to their newsletter, or follow them on Twitter... but it's not the same. And the tools that were available to replace Reader were always short in some aspect. Google Reader was killed in favor of Google+ (which failed horribly). After t…

How did RSS go downhill? Other commenters in here have mentioned their readers of choice; I can add mine: NewsBlur. Turns out RSS is still in pretty common use, as far as I can tell, unless you can point to a handful of sites that aren't using either RSS or Atom. Invariably, when the topic of RSS comes up, someone laments its "passing", which leads me to ask (again): where is this impression coming from? Is it the me…

It was awesome having google.com/ig as a homepage. There hasn't been anything to replace it that I know of.

I still subscribe to feeds in a different tool but it's not the same.

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