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Post by searchableguy »

crazygringo wrote: post #258

Not to rain on the parade, but serious question: are bookmarks actually useful anymore? It's funny, I'm trying to remember when I simply stopped using bookmarks. 5 years ago, maybe? 10? I'm not entirely sure. I used to have elaborate folder hierachies of bookmarks in my browser. But at some point, I realized anytime I needed something, it was faster to just type a keyword or two in the address bar. Either it was ther…

I am working on something similar. Bookmarks are still usable because Google is pretty bad for some obscure queries and they work as a reminder more for me.

Search engines require active discovery. You can find most of the links posted here on HN. Why have HN?

It's curated, have social elements and passive. You just sit back and click rather than coming up with something interesting to search for.

I am still surprised google hasn't come up with a passive consumption of their search engine. It seems like something they can do. Google feed doesn't have social elements to it so I wouldn't count it in. Google Plus was a failure.

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Post by glxxyz »

crazygringo wrote: post #258

Not to rain on the parade, but serious question: are bookmarks actually useful anymore? It's funny, I'm trying to remember when I simply stopped using bookmarks. 5 years ago, maybe? 10? I'm not entirely sure. I used to have elaborate folder hierachies of bookmarks in my browser. But at some point, I realized anytime I needed something, it was faster to just type a keyword or two in the address bar. Either it was ther…

I bookmark pages in Chrome because they show up higher than non-bookmarked pages in auto suggestions. I sometimes search within my bookmarks, but never organize/browse them the way I did 20 years ago.

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Post by jamesgeck0 »

dvtrn wrote: post #173
0-O-0 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It never went away. If you want experience similar to Google Reader - there are several clients (but better ones require paid subscription). RSS feeds are still there.

RSS feeds are still there And so heavily truncated, spoiling the point in many (but not all) cases of having an RSS feed entirely.

It's frustrating, but not new; there were sites doing this back when Google Reader was big. I don't know if it's more prevalent.

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Post by known »

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man" --George Bernard Shaw

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Post by wasdfff »

duxup wrote: post #215
haywirez wrote: post #151

What a hero — love how the story of Pinboard stacks up against the long-term unsustainability of VC-funded and overhyped startups. Quote from the 2011 article[0]: "My dream is to keep this a one-person project," says Ceglowski. "I am competing against billionaires like the YouTube guys running Delicious and I can hold my own. The tools I use have gotten so good and they are the same ones that Yahoo and Google use." I…

It does seem like there might be room out there for things that aren't unicorns, but are sustainable / good products that can operate, even at a profit, with small teams. I always think of / mention Gumroad when I think of that: https://sahillavingia.com/reflecting I worry in the rush to the tip top we lose some good products / services / economic activity that are billion dollar wins... but are still way good ideas.

Craigslist is a model company imo

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Post by masukomi »

crazygringo wrote: post #258

Not to rain on the parade, but serious question: are bookmarks actually useful anymore? It's funny, I'm trying to remember when I simply stopped using bookmarks. 5 years ago, maybe? 10? I'm not entirely sure. I used to have elaborate folder hierachies of bookmarks in my browser. But at some point, I realized anytime I needed something, it was faster to just type a keyword or two in the address bar. Either it was ther…

I currently have 13,229 bookmarks in Pinboard.in. They are all cross referenced with multiple useful tags and I add maybe 3+ every day.

Google is a poor substitute because it gives me pages of results for what I need and they may or may not be any good. I may have to search again. I may have to click through 4 or five pages before i find one that's useful even though i've been to a useful one before.

Searching in my bookmarks gives me ones that are KNOWN useful, AND because of Pinboard's archival feature they are still available even after the site has disappeared.

I bookmark things _I_ find useful and things I think will be likely be useful to the people in my circles. Then when a friend says "hey is there a good tool for x?" I can say "yes, and here's a link to it" even if i don't use that tool. Or, i can link them to full pages of useful bookmarks on a topic.

So yeah, I have thousands of curated links of _useful_ things and pieces of information that are on the internet or _were_ on the internet. I use it daily. I share links with others regularly. I'm constantly thankful when i can read the content of that blog post I bookmarked that described X better than anything currently out there... but no longer exists on the internet. It's also great for research. I can make a new tag for some topic I'm gathering info on (maybe competitors for a future project) and when i am ready to start processing that info i have a whole list of easily accessible links to go through.

re "is it a service people need anymore?" Note that the reason the thing that started off this discussion exists is because enough people are paying him money to use Pinboard.in that he was able to spend unknown thousands of dollars on Delicious for the SOLE purpose of shuttering it and putting it in read-only mode. He probably got some users who transferred their accounts to Pinboard.in out of the deal, but that wasn't his primary goal by all accounts.

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Post by fuball63 »

crazygringo wrote: post #258

Not to rain on the parade, but serious question: are bookmarks actually useful anymore? It's funny, I'm trying to remember when I simply stopped using bookmarks. 5 years ago, maybe? 10? I'm not entirely sure. I used to have elaborate folder hierachies of bookmarks in my browser. But at some point, I realized anytime I needed something, it was faster to just type a keyword or two in the address bar. Either it was ther…

I've been finding lately that as overall web usability declines, ive been relying on bookmarks more. For example, at work I can never navigate jira correctly to the page I want, so I have a bookmark. Twitter shows tweets out of order and from random people I don't follow, so I have a bookmark to the search page with a query to have people I follow sorted by date. I too haven't used bookmarks for years until recently discovering that it's the easiest way to "hack" a bad service.

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Post by techntoke »

haywirez wrote: post #151

What a hero — love how the story of Pinboard stacks up against the long-term unsustainability of VC-funded and overhyped startups. Quote from the 2011 article[0]: "My dream is to keep this a one-person project," says Ceglowski. "I am competing against billionaires like the YouTube guys running Delicious and I can hold my own. The tools I use have gotten so good and they are the same ones that Yahoo and Google use." I…

There are a lot of room for open source improvements when it comes to bookmark management. I envision a CLI and web server that uses TOML, YAML and JSON like Hugo.

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Post by wackget »

binarysneaker wrote: post #204

I gave up on delicious a long time ago, after it has changed hands several times and the code-base had reverted to a steaming pile of pre-web-2.0 shit. The browser extensions has all mostly died a long time before, and mobile apps were non existent. I tried every replacement, but nothing was quite like delicious was in the glory days. Then raindrop.io appeared. It's another one-dev project, but it's like a polished d…

Does it support working offline only? If it can't connect to the internet, it can't spy on you.
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