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The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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those geniuses broadcast computer programs via airwaves during a radio show. listeners would record it on cassette and play the program on computer. anybody else did that ?

BBC did something similar with its BBC Micro: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro_expansion_unit#Telet...

Also with the Basicode broadcasts too. I remember the BBC broadcasting these and then us running them on our BBC B at home.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BASICODE

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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"the consumption has completely destroyed public morale, innovation and will to actually do something" When I talk to people living in the balkans, I don't get the feeling that abundance in products is destroying their morale.

Depends, us old people who saw both sides of the coin feel like today’s youth is crippled, they have no motive to study or be competitive, it’s mostly look pretty and be out with friends all day long.

I was born in late 70s in Croatia (then Yugoslavia), moved in early 90s to Belgrade, Serbia, due to rise of nationalism and violence of official Croatian regime against Serbs. Not that official Serbian regime was any better in that regard, just against other nations, mostly Croatians and Bosnians.

I don't consider myself old, but I'm no "modern kid" by any measure.

What I observe among today's people of these regions (I travel and keep contact with people all over ex-Yugoslavia - mostly Bosnia, Croatia and Slovenia), regardless of their age, is defeatism and lack of confidence. Most don't beleive they can invent, build or produce anything on their own. Everything needs to be imported.

It saddens me because ex-Yugoslavia used to produce computers, cars, electronics, aircrafts, hi-fi audio stuff etc. back in the 80s.

Closing of all these industries in 90s had devastating econimical impact, but that was later recovered - they mostly reopened but now under new multinational owners, producing parts for global brands. Smart and industrious people got their salaries back.

What hasn't recovered so far is belief that we can again invent and build for ourselves, not sell knowledge and skill to big global players at low price and then buy finished products at much higher price.

But then again I think this is not specific just to ex-Yugoslavia, it seems to be global trend.

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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You should look at this from the point of view of a simple citizen. The old government (king and families) capitulated and some fled. So the country was left on the mercy of the fascists. The people self-organized and self-liberated their country. Those who were the true leaders of this fight, got to lead the newly freed country in 1945. This is why people trusted all these leaders until they died. Tito was one of th…

Yes, it was a system that benefited the ordinary citizens, and all the people loved it. All decent people, anyway. If someone came up to criticize it, obviously they were a criminal, and the benevolent Tito, in his love and mercy, would have them locked away so as to prevent them from further damaging glorious Yugoslavian society and harming the people with their corruptive influence, and rehabilitate them into a bet…

It may not have been a paragon of freedom and free speech like America but it was also very much not East Germany or the USSR.

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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It is a trope that every generation thinks the next generation is worse I also think you're looking at Yugoslavia with nostalgic rose colored glasses. I understand it because I grew up in communist Eastern Europe and I have similar feelings about life back then, but let's be clear, everything was fine as long as you charted the expected course and had no major aspirations. If you had any sort of ambition, political,…

Most people who grew up in Yugoslavia are fond of it, and they rarely factor the wars in their opinion. That said, prewar Yugoslavia was 1000x better than anything Warsaw Pact.

Slovenia was the richest federal unit within Yugloslavia and I guess that makes them the most successful experiment in socialism like ever. I think at that time they were doing better than the current Greece and Portugal. However, the rest of Yugloslavia wasn't that great.

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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A few aphorisms about Voja Antonić: 1. He was involved as a skeptic and wrote a well-received (among my friends at least) book debunking psychics and various kinds of nonsense. As a teenage boy in Serbia (in the late 90s?), I asked him to translate a portion of the book to English and put the translation on my website. He graciously allowed me to do so. Part of why I wanted to go through that massive effort was to co…

Too bad, I'd have loved to read this astrology debunking. And to forward it to a friend or two :P

You sure you don't still have a copy of it somewhere? 0:-)

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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Even the old Greeks complained how their youth is worse. It’s been quite a few generations since and we are still moving on.

Do you have a source for this? It is commonly attributed to Socrates, but this appears not to be true : https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha

I've heard being attributed to Hesiod from a talk by Adam Conover, but i've not investigated.

EDIT: sorry, apparently it's also a misquotation:

https://www.quora.com/Which-ancient-Greek-spoke-of-there-bei...

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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The author did a good job and hit the spirit of the times in the former state. The Spectrum and C-64 raised hundreds of IT pioneers in the 1980s. It all always started with pirated tapes but most after a year or two switched to writing code and trying to create their own software. Good times with the exception of politics.

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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post #74

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Most people who grew up in Yugoslavia are fond of it, and they rarely factor the wars in their opinion. That said, prewar Yugoslavia was 1000x better than anything Warsaw Pact.

Slovenia was the richest federal unit within Yugloslavia and I guess that makes them the most successful experiment in socialism like ever. I think at that time they were doing better than the current Greece and Portugal. However, the rest of Yugloslavia wasn't that great.

Sarajevo in the 80s was pretty good and it was still behind Zagreb and Belgrade. I moved to northern Italy in 92 and the standard of living wasn't that much better for most people compared to a larger Yugoslavian city in the 80s.

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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post #67

There's also a number of issues of the Magazine on archive.org https://archive.org/search.php?query=Galaksija

Wow thanks for digging that up. My dad was a “regular contributor” so it’s really cool to see his work. Računari also, IIRC.

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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A few aphorisms about Voja Antonić: 1. He was involved as a skeptic and wrote a well-received (among my friends at least) book debunking psychics and various kinds of nonsense. As a teenage boy in Serbia (in the late 90s?), I asked him to translate a portion of the book to English and put the translation on my website. He graciously allowed me to do so. Part of why I wanted to go through that massive effort was to co…

Too bad, I'd have loved to read this astrology debunking. And to forward it to a friend or two :P You sure you don't still have a copy of it somewhere? 0:-)

You can use the famous Carl Sagan book The Demon Haunting World instead. Voja's book was inspired by it and covers the same topics in similar manner.
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