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Re: Google Drive – How do I stop others from sharing files with me?

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Post by rvnx » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 10:40 AM UTC

neurostimulant wrote: post #140

popinman322 wrote: post #133

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Looks like the answer is no: https://support.google.com/communities/answer/9138806?hl=en

> When you become an expert, you'll get exclusive program perks, like special badges in the Google Help Communities, direct access to Google employees to provide product feedback and a chance to test Google products before they're released. So, the reward for helping with the forum are some badges and a chance to be Google's beta tester, and it appears to be working? Maybe they can launch some sort of mechanical turk…

I am member of one of these programs, and it's not worth it once you get everything unlocked. At best you get invited to HQ, but that's it.

Re: Google Drive – How do I stop others from sharing files with me?

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Post by DaiPlusPlus » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 10:58 AM UTC

wincy wrote: post #149

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #99

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I’m surprised Google hasn’t hopped-on to the UserVoice bandwagon like Microsoft and Adobe did.

Yeah it’s so cool how Microsoft Teams hasn’t implemented custom emojis. Had to write a script to pull all our Slack ones down since we’re being mandated to switch over.

> Yeah it’s so cool how Microsoft Teams hasn’t implemented custom emojis

I agree, completely unironically.

Some things just don't belong in "work" chats, sorry.

Re: Google Drive – How do I stop others from sharing files with me?

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Post by prepend » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 11:26 AM UTC

ridaj wrote: post #226

prepend wrote: post #203

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Good point, I’m assuming because the only advice given by mods is to submit feedback. I’ve never seen “I agree, this is important, I’ll work with the dev team.” I think that if there was consideration, that would be in the mods scripts and posted on the forum. I understand it’s hard to prioritize features but I’m familiar with so many years old common sense suggestions that don’t have any explanation of why it won’t…

The mod in this situation isn't an employee, it looks like. Just a user doing their best to help other users, so directing to the feedback tool sounds reasonable to me... Maybe an employee could chime in. The problem I've seen with responding "I'll work with the dev team" is that some users at least will then have some timeframe expectations on the order of weeks based on what they imagine a fix to look like. But the…

I’m taking about paid tools- gmail, google docs. And in Microsoft’s case Office.

I don’t think it’s better to go from recommendation, to X years of silence, to rollout. I’d rather know if something is prioritized and in progress. I’d like to plan for rollout. Maybe it changes my upgrade and purchase planning.

My main point is the current technique sucks and makes me want to use products less. I’ve used support forums for decades and they can be non frustrating when I feel I am part of a community.

The current method seems “us vs. then” with neglect for any meaningful change. They should just do better. Not perfect. Just not horrible.

Re: Google Drive – How do I stop others from sharing files with me?

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Post by MaxBarraclough » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 11:26 AM UTC

tcmeggs wrote: post #158

Love that the only way to get support from Google in 2020 is to post to HN.

From Google's point of view, it probably works as quite an effective filter. If a Google issue has made it to the HN front-page, it's probably worth looking at.

Of course, this doesn't absolve them of the matter of it being the only way to get support.

Re: Google Drive – How do I stop others from sharing files with me?

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Post by Mister_Snuggles » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 12:15 PM UTC

aspenmayer wrote: post #134

knolan wrote: post #80

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This reminds me of the obnoxious know-it-all that lives under the bridge on the QNAP forums.

Do you like QNAP products? I have experience with a few Synology NASes, and was looking at QNAP’s media center NAS products, and they seem nice. It seems like QNAP has a bit more open source support, which I definitely like. Ubuntu Linux Station looks neat, like a first-party supported integrated Ubuntu Docker container? That QNAP’s web management and the device itself runs Linux under the hood is awesome; this may b…

I've got a QNAP TS-451 and it works, but I don't find that the added features are really worth anything. I basically use it as a dumb storage server (NFS, SMB, and iSCSI) and for that it works really well. The only bit of smarts I use is the Hybrid Backup Sync utility to back up important folders to external drives and, when I get around to setting it up, some kind of off-site backup.

I've just found too many odd limitations with the device to use it for much more than that. For example, you can set up VLANs and you can bind services to specific physical network interfaces, but you can't bind a service to a VLAN interface. This is what made me give up on the added features.

Also, be aware that some added features have moved to a subscription model[0]. And, if you expose your QNAP to the internet, there's a risk of getting malware[1]. On the plus side, this has made them open up a tiny bit[2][3].

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/qnap/comments/hmsw6a/beware_of_prem...

[1] https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/27/qnap_attack_warning/

[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/qnap/comments/fd0g71/psa_im_having_...

[3] https://www.reddit.com/r/qnap/comments/fgmeu3/psa_qsnatch_up...

Re: Google Drive – How do I stop others from sharing files with me?

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Post by zimmund » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 1:01 PM UTC

aspenmayer wrote: post #134

knolan wrote: post #80

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This reminds me of the obnoxious know-it-all that lives under the bridge on the QNAP forums.

Do you like QNAP products? I have experience with a few Synology NASes, and was looking at QNAP’s media center NAS products, and they seem nice. It seems like QNAP has a bit more open source support, which I definitely like. Ubuntu Linux Station looks neat, like a first-party supported integrated Ubuntu Docker container? That QNAP’s web management and the device itself runs Linux under the hood is awesome; this may b…

I'm not a person who uses to return products, and I had mine for just two weeks. It was constantly reading/writing to disk. All the time. It wasn't indexing: the QNAP system has a lot of small services and some of them write logs to disk or do god knows what. Given the particular architecture of the NAS processor I wasn't able to install cli tools to analyze the problem further, but at this point I realized the NAS wasn't doing what I wanted in the first place: ease my life and allow me to automate backups.

I ended up adding one of the disks to my PC and the other to a home server.

I must admit though that the QNAP solutions look very helpful if you disregard the abusive disk R/W activity and the inconsistent UI. You may be able to set up complex backup schemes quite fast with it.

If you are interested in virtualization and advanced usage, be sure to get one with an ARM processor at least, because it may be difficult to get packages for it on other obscure architectures.

Re: Google Drive – How do I stop others from sharing files with me?

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 1:29 PM UTC

jiggawatts wrote: post #236

ramosu wrote: post #22

It seems Google simply abandon some of their products. I've been living with another issue since 2011: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/35889152

> "9 years with this. This is beyond absurd and stupid. The way it is done now allows a complete stranger to fill my Firebase dashboard with 100 projects and I'm completely helpless. WTF" Wow. When people say that Google "doesn't seem to give a shit" about their users, this is what they mean.

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Re: Google Drive – How do I stop others from sharing files with me?

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Post by throwaway29102 » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 2:46 PM UTC

In the spirit of 2020, maybe making the problem worse will ultimately make it better?

Re: Google Drive – How do I stop others from sharing files with me?

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Post by aspenmayer » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 2:59 PM UTC

pmarreck wrote: post #168

aspenmayer wrote: post #134

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Do you like QNAP products? I have experience with a few Synology NASes, and was looking at QNAP’s media center NAS products, and they seem nice. It seems like QNAP has a bit more open source support, which I definitely like. Ubuntu Linux Station looks neat, like a first-party supported integrated Ubuntu Docker container? That QNAP’s web management and the device itself runs Linux under the hood is awesome; this may b…

FreeNAS /partial sarcasm

I’ve run FreeNAS as well, but I found there was something strange about the involvement of iXsystems I couldn’t put my finger on. It just didn’t seem professionally done on the web site, or the web GUI. It was 98% of the way there functionality-wise, but the GUI was just overwhelming. Personal preference I guess. Perhaps there are other themes, and being open source, I’m sure it can be configured to my liking. I am glad the project exists, all that said. I just don’t know if it’s something I can sell to a client. I am more than comfortable running it myself, and have done so; to catch network scan jobs for SMBv1 only MFPs, for instance.

Re: Google Drive – How do I stop others from sharing files with me?

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Post by toss1 » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 3:01 PM UTC

ojosilva wrote: post #259

zerocrates wrote: post #256

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Is this something Google actually did/does? It doesn't really fit with my experience of them. Now, if the confirmation email contained this upsell in text or in schema.org metadata or whatever and Google pulled it over, that feels very much like something they would do.

In my experience that's what happened. Some ad text on the bottom of the email got picked up (ie "hotels available during your trip"). It had "hotel" and a date range. That's all a faulty Google AI needs to create a hotel stay event. In fact I'd adventure to say this is an exploit by the airline upsell team, not Google.

My first thought was that it was from something like an airline/travel upsell team that somehow sneaked through, but my interaction w/Google convinced me otherwise (sorry I don't recall all the details, as it was years ago).

Google definitely made clear that if I wanted to accept them auto-populating my calendar with the flights in my email, I also had to accept the fake hotel bookings and lying "...confirm?" messages and manually delete them.

I'd be mildly ok with Google sending an offer email resembling: "Here's a potentially good hotel for your trip, would you like to book this, confirm, and insert in calendar?" (ya, it's spam, but at least sort of on-topic).

But what Google was doing is highly offensive and dishonest.

They presume to make a booking, populate it into my calendar, then send an email & alert in the calendar claiming that I failed to confirm the booking that they claim that I made -- flat-out lying to me, hoping I'm just in too much of a rush to notice that their booking was not one that I'd intended.

That was just so far beyond crossing the line that I want nothing to do with any such feature.

Sadly, it is also another bad example to magnify the stereotype of technology people with no ethical grounding (broadly, I don't think it's true, but it happens enough that it smears all of us).