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Re: Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota nuclear sub

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Post by DyslexicAtheist »

barnesto wrote: post #75
polytely wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok so destin works as a scientist for the us gov. He did a video a while ago where he interviewed a general about the cyber domain of warfare. In this interview they discussed that the interview itself was part of that cyber domain, and the access they provide to destin is a part of the US presence in the cyber domain. [0] The pentagon clearly sees smarter everyday as a channel to spread information to a certain audi…

marketing is not propaganda.

how then would propaganda be defined? It is the attempt to sway a targets opinion in your favor. Propaganda is "the formation of peoples attitudes"[1] as is marketing.

[1] Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_M...

Re: Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota nuclear sub

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Post by meroes »

barnesto wrote: post #75
polytely wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok so destin works as a scientist for the us gov. He did a video a while ago where he interviewed a general about the cyber domain of warfare. In this interview they discussed that the interview itself was part of that cyber domain, and the access they provide to destin is a part of the US presence in the cyber domain. [0] The pentagon clearly sees smarter everyday as a channel to spread information to a certain audi…

marketing is not propaganda.

It literally is though

Re: Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota nuclear sub

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Post by willis936 »

barnesto wrote: post #75
polytely wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok so destin works as a scientist for the us gov. He did a video a while ago where he interviewed a general about the cyber domain of warfare. In this interview they discussed that the interview itself was part of that cyber domain, and the access they provide to destin is a part of the US presence in the cyber domain. [0] The pentagon clearly sees smarter everyday as a channel to spread information to a certain audi…

marketing is not propaganda.

Uncle Sam Wants You! To explain how that is remotely true.

Re: Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota nuclear sub

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Post by Raidion »

barnesto wrote: post #75
polytely wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok so destin works as a scientist for the us gov. He did a video a while ago where he interviewed a general about the cyber domain of warfare. In this interview they discussed that the interview itself was part of that cyber domain, and the access they provide to destin is a part of the US presence in the cyber domain. [0] The pentagon clearly sees smarter everyday as a channel to spread information to a certain audi…

marketing is not propaganda.

The line is very blurry. Political marketing could easily be called propaganda.

First google definition is "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view."

It's very easy to see how in a period of naval troubles (various collisions in the pacific, Bon Homme Richard, China in the South Sea), this could be considered advancing the US political position of the navy.

I really like Destin and think this isn't propaganda, but it is a recruiting tool for the Navy. If you're not constantly looking out for possible sources of bias in your information, there are a lot of people/organizations out there that will gladly lead you to conclusions that aren't 100% accurate.

Re: Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota nuclear sub

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Post by DuskStar »

newacct583 wrote: post #79
rimjongun wrote: post #71

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I think to call it almost 100% peaceful is not meeting us in good faith. That’s simply nowhere approaching the truth.

What's your estimate then? I mean... I'm here in Portland. I can drive right by downtown (drove straight through Ground Zero at main and 3rd just this morning). I see the hippies. I don't see violence. Show me the violence. Tell me why I need to support tear gassing these kids every night for two months. No one will. But I see people vote up these posts about "yay lasers!" instead. I'm out of patience here. I can see…

Well, "no violence that I have personally seen during the day" doesn't really have any relevance to "is there violence during the night" - and all the police brutality / protester violence / arson etc videos I've seen from Portland have been at night.

Re: Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota nuclear sub

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Post by dragonwriter »

barnesto wrote: post #75
polytely wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok so destin works as a scientist for the us gov. He did a video a while ago where he interviewed a general about the cyber domain of warfare. In this interview they discussed that the interview itself was part of that cyber domain, and the access they provide to destin is a part of the US presence in the cyber domain. [0] The pentagon clearly sees smarter everyday as a channel to spread information to a certain audi…

marketing is not propaganda.

“Propaganda" comes from the former name of the Roman Catholic central body tasked with marketing the faith, currently known as the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples, but from 1622-1967 it was the Sacred Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith, or, in Latin Sacra Congregatio de Propaganda Fide.

Marketing is exactly propaganda, the deliberate propagation of particular beliefs to motivate desired action.

And government promotion of it's military is pretty much at the core of the common understanding of propaganda, not some obscure connection.

Re: Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota nuclear sub

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Post by jeffreyrogers »

charwalker wrote: post #64
refurb wrote: post #42

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Used against Portland protestors? From the videos I've seen, it's the "protestors" using them against the police. https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1286914458032332800

From friends on the ground in Portland I will say it's largely still aggravated by police presence and the DHS/federal agents. If authorities did not step in with tear gas and kidnapping protests would have continue to be mostly nonviolent. Turns out that when you meet protests against police brutality with police brutality and disappearing citizens, nothing improves. There are small groups and agitators causing issu…

What other protests have anywhere near this much violence? Gay rights movements have had large protests/marches for decades. Same with anti-abortion activists (and pro-choice activists). Hell, even literal neo-nazis have protests that don't get this violent.

Re: Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota nuclear sub

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Post by chongli »

jbay808 wrote: post #63
tgb wrote: post #25

What would a retroreflector on the target do to the dazzler's operator?

I assume that the scope has a 532 nm bandstop filter to prevent that issue. Also, the eyesafe feature probably triggers on retroreflection from a target's eyes, so a retroreflector would likely trigger the laser to reduce it's beam power.

So then the adversaries could wear laser safety glasses with the same 532 nm bandstop filter? Seems like a simple fix for them.

Re: Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota nuclear sub

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Post by newacct583 »

DuskStar wrote: post #85
newacct583 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your estimate then? I mean... I'm here in Portland. I can drive right by downtown (drove straight through Ground Zero at main and 3rd just this morning). I see the hippies. I don't see violence. Show me the violence. Tell me why I need to support tear gassing these kids every night for two months. No one will. But I see people vote up these posts about "yay lasers!" instead. I'm out of patience here. I can see…

Well, "no violence that I have personally seen during the day" doesn't really have any relevance to "is there violence during the night" - and all the police brutality / protester violence / arson etc videos I've seen from Portland have been at night.

You know what I meant. There's plenty of video evidence of brutality on one side (again: literally tear gas, impact munitions and billy clubs every night for two months!) and a flood of highly spun "well, it's sorta like violence" on the other (laser pointers, fireworks, cutting fences, "they're holding shields"). I can see what I see. You can too. So why the insistence that "we don't know"? We know.
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