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Re: Ask HN: Is all of FAANG like this?

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FAAMG is so much more appropriate to describe the dominant tech players. People just like the sound of "FAANG". Netflix doesn't come close to matching Microsoft or the others.

I keep hearing FAMGAN to describe these, Facebook Apple Microsoft Google Amazon Netflix.

I just go with FAGMAN, it rolls off the tongue nicely

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If you're concerned about your downvotes perhaps you can give us your theory of how it works.

Compensation is decided by a hierarchy of managers, with each manager giving his subordinates a budget to compensate his subordinate managers, trickling down layer-by-layer to the peons. If your manager's manager's manager is awesome at self-promotion, you'll make more money. The End

^ This guy reads the Dictator's Handbook.

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That’s not how software development works

Not sure why I was downvoted, it’s absolutely true. SDE is not a meritocracy.

You're downvoted because you post a shallow dismissal. Look it up in the guidelines, link at the bottom of the page.

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Please don't take this as a disparaging comment because it's not meant to be, but...how to you define "worthwhile"? I had to read the OP's comment twice because it wasn't immediately apparent to me that coding in the gaming industry met my intuitive definition of a "worthwhile" endeavor. FWIW, I think it's awesome you found something that meets your personal goal, I'm just curious how you arrived at that definition o…

This is a compilation of people reacting in real time to the next game I'm working on. Nothing I could ever build at a FAANG company compares to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtxaEDp3AFI

That’s not gameplay. Actually playing the game will look completely different. You might as well just be making an animated film.

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> It may even work for most workers but for some us, we cannot mentally "compartmentalize" the day job as the isolated 9-to-5 soul-sucking slog and then use the weekend activities to make up for it. Remember that the absolute majority of humanity are working soul-sucking slog jobs to get a salary to be able to afford a home and food and some nice things. We who work in tech are extremely fortunate to be able to find…

This is an important perspective. I'm grateful for what I have, but I deeply struggle with the same feelings others have shared in this thread. Knowing that I'm fortunate to not be subsistence farming doesn't fill that hole where purpose should be. It seems some humans might not be wired to feel okay about this, no matter how hard they try. Maybe our goal should be to free everyone else from soul sucking slog jobs th…

> but I deeply struggle with the same feelings others have shared in this thread.

Yeah, it's like the old saying "rich people problems are still problems". :-)

I get it and I sympathize, everyone should strive to make their lives as fulfilling as possible. But a tiny bit of humility and outside perspective works wonders.

> Maybe our goal should be to free everyone else from soul sucking slog jobs through automation/reorganization of incentives to not have these make work jobs?

110% this. We must reach post labour as soon as possible to stop the insane waste of human potential.

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I'm using AWS to mean the 212 different cloudy services they offer, not the original compute and storage products

No Amazon retail doesn’t develop a service internally and turn it over to AWS so they can sell it to customers. AWS treats Amazon Retail as just another customer that sometimes gets access to services before they are made publicly available. They talk about this all of the time at reinvent.

I mean Amazon as a whole, not specifically the retail arm. Wasn't the point that every internal service should be able to be productised? This was much later than when AWS was started.

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What? What do you mean by worse...

Worse as in you try to get things done in a cost effective way in order to deliver value to taxpayers but have to deal with lifers, deadwood, and clueless managers who are completely risk-averse. I know. I work in the public service.

Right there with you. Not saying I'm a bright shining star, but it is amazing the level of incompetence you sometimes run across. It is legitimately the first place where I've found people who actually cost time/resources for anything they touch or interact with.

The other thing is the supreme deference to rank at the cost of initiative.

It was mind blowing coming from a more competitive corporate world.

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I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I'm trying to make the connection to what happened and your comment: > I do think "do what you love" and its cousin "shoot for the stars" get a lot of people in trouble. Are you implying your sister was doing what she loved and it got her in trouble? Because the opposite comes to mind when I read stories like this, that perhaps people feel driven to follow the path they feel they ar…

In her suicide note, which I read six years ago and not since, she branded herself destined for failure and declared her intention to spare her family from the burden she was destined to be. She tried her hand at several careers and I think she didn't come close to loving any of them, and was conscientious enough for this to wrack her with guilt. If you're told "do what you love" doing something you don't love is fai…

Thank you for sharing. As someone who scores much, much higher on the “conscientious” scale than the other big five personality traits, what you said rings very true, but you framed it in a way I had not previously thought of.

I wonder if this is worse in the US where Americans find so much identity in their jobs. Regardless, as you said, people need room to just “make a living” and find purpose (and hopefully contentment) outside of one's work if we can’t all be following our passion (if we’re lucky enough to have even found our passion)

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I remember talking to a senior person at FB (wears a suit on friday). I asked "how is hiring?". Their response: terrible. People like this OP game systems, know how to test, understands what the boss wants, know ahead of time the questions they will be asked, etc. They have gamed the entire system. So! They tend to get through the interview with ease. The problem is... now what. What is the next thing they need to ga…

This is on the companies themselves. You show young talent some kind of game then that's the game they'll play. https://youtu.be/FNEDJPeoHZo

Reminds me of Goodhart's Law: "When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure."

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I remember talking to a senior person at FB (wears a suit on friday). I asked "how is hiring?". Their response: terrible. People like this OP game systems, know how to test, understands what the boss wants, know ahead of time the questions they will be asked, etc. They have gamed the entire system. So! They tend to get through the interview with ease. The problem is... now what. What is the next thing they need to ga…

considering that the entire point of programming is to automate your job, i'd say it's just about right.
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