Get their money, fill your pockets.
Use their time, start your hobby projects.
Don't forget to have fun.
Fun is skipping the classes.
Ask HN: Is all of FAANG like this?
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I get why it's important, it just feels poopy. I think it summarizes a lot of office work. We're organized in processes which are efficient and/or necessary at the scale of the company, but which severely restrict and constrain us, making a lot of us unhappy. For people for whom it's unbearable, there are two options: either join a small company or just check out completely, treat your job as some bullshit that bri…
> be glad you're not cleaning toilets for 20% of your pay Be advised: If you are programming computers in 2020 and making only 5x what a toilet cleaner makes, you are approximately 100% underpaid.
Depending where you're based this isn't true. At my country in Europe I could earn 1000€ / month cleaning offices and common Programmer salaries' are 1200 - 1500€ / month
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you telling me that if you had the financial freedom to work on any project you wanted, you’d choose what you’re doing right now?
I enjoy doing what I do. I think it's possible to combine financial success with personal satisfaction. In fact I believe the greatest financial successes are the ones that are most intimately tied to their creator's personal satisfaction, enjoyment and alignment with what they do
not the question that was asked
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hiring doesn’t show whether you’re capable of the work, it just answers whether you might be hired. The reply here is entirely in line with the poster; they didn’t say anything about feeling like a fraud, they said candidates in tech minmax career choices with no thought as to their actual purpose. And yeah anyone remotely self-aware would feel disgusting working on adtech. It’s just that most tech workers do not thi…
Some of us end up working at jobs infinitely worse than adtech, the public service.
What? What do you mean by worse...
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's why they pay you money for it. If it was fun, people would do it for free (see the FOSS world and its endless discussions on how to monetize).
They pay you money because you bring them value. Not because it's fulfilling or not for you in any way.
> They pay you money because you bring them value
Not at all. They pay what it would cost to replace you. If someone accepted to do the same job for cheaper (or free), they'd take it, regardless of the value it generates.
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#136Re: Ask HN: Is all of FAANG like this?
#137It's not just all FAANG. It's any big corporation. The corporations that do well are able to navigate this big management stuff and move slightly faster. I'm reminded of this saying which I believe to be true especially in the big corporation: faster alone, further together
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#138This doesn't directly answer your question and you didn't ask it, but I feel it relates directly to the source of your frustration potentially: you may never find a job that is fully satisfactory in terms of what you hope to find. I used to be in a similar boat striving to work towards and find some magical job that would make me feel fulfilled and purposeful. They all ended up having things I didn't like and would q…
Re: Ask HN: Is all of FAANG like this?
#139Don't think about whether this is normal. Just ask yourself what you would like to be doing instead. Can you do that while barely doing any work at FAANG and collecting a paycheck? Or would you need to change jobs? I would personally wait until the recession has hit bottom before changing jobs. But then again you could get hit by a truck tomorrow.
I can tell you that lots of huge companies have this, but not consistently. Some teams move fast while some move glacially. Greenfield work can move the fastest, unless you get stuck waiting on someone to build environments.
Definitely don't stay there too long if you're unhappy. Worst case you try something new and it stinks, in which case you try again.
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#140This sounds like a general description of life at a big company. At least your company isn't as dysfunctional as this: https://sites.google.com/site/forgottenemployee/ :)
Amazing read