Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who said they must be?
You spend around half of your wakeful hours at your job, if it's unfulfilling you're trading misery in addition to time for money.
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#92At Apple, the amount of debate, code review delays, and interdepartmental meetings made everything take forever. I once waited 2 months for a code review there. A feature I wrote and pushed for Leopard didn’t actually ship until Lion. Back then there was severe priority inversion, anything the desktop needed got delayed by iOS priorities but also the senior engineers with magic rubber stamp powers were working on iOS…
This really goes a long way towards explaining the current state of macOS.
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#93Things at these companies are moving slow, because they are behemoth. Upside, when things move, they move faster than at any other big corp I now. they also tend to move if not the right than at least not the wrong direction. Also a big difference compared to other big corps I know. FAANG also turned into a political nightmare at times, office powerplays are a daily occurence.
One thing you definetly can learn, is how thngs should be run, FAANG are good at what they do. Learn whatever you can, try to understand why things are done the way they are before judging.
After all that, FAANG is not for everyone, I left after three years. The sooner you realize that, the better for you. Being one year in is not that uncommon to quite, there is alos no shame in doing so. If you can stick with it, regardless of the current economic situation, I would stick around for another one or two years. You are at the beginning of your learning curve.
If you want speed, pick a job at a start-up. From my experience you will get the other side of the coin: speed replaces planning, politics are still the same and SOPs are replaced with chaos. I know what I prefer.
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#94On this kind of topic I try not to generalize across a whole (large) company.
Things can be different across teams, offices, cities and countries within the same company.
In my experience "no work gets done and there's no motivation to do any" is the very opposite of what I've seen.
My suggestion: get out of the team bubble and talk to people in different teams and geographical locations.
EDIT: on second thought, I don't want to speculate, but if the team has serious productivity issues the hammer can come and hit the whole team in future. Amazon, generally speaking, tends to push people to either grow or leave.
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#95I remember talking to a senior person at FB (wears a suit on friday). I asked "how is hiring?". Their response: terrible. People like this OP game systems, know how to test, understands what the boss wants, know ahead of time the questions they will be asked, etc. They have gamed the entire system. So! They tend to get through the interview with ease. The problem is... now what. What is the next thing they need to ga…
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#96Interesting typo considering the current climate.
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#97This sounds like a general description of life at a big company. At least your company isn't as dysfunctional as this: https://sites.google.com/site/forgottenemployee/ :)
Large = we're stable, most likely a monopoly or oligopoly, so there's no threat and no need to move fast while things work
Small = we need cash, we need customers, we need that product done yesterday!
Medium size is where it's at - there can be medium size companies within large companies. These are more stable but still need to innovate and move along. Either smaller companies are going to start nipping at their heels or big companies with decide to move into their neighborhood and guzzle up everything.
If countries wanted a bubbling, innovative and competitive economy, they'd limit the size of companies and preemptively break up big companies.
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#98This sounds like a general description of life at a big company. At least your company isn't as dysfunctional as this: https://sites.google.com/site/forgottenemployee/ :)
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#99I remember talking to a senior person at FB (wears a suit on friday). I asked "how is hiring?". Their response: terrible. People like this OP game systems, know how to test, understands what the boss wants, know ahead of time the questions they will be asked, etc. They have gamed the entire system. So! They tend to get through the interview with ease. The problem is... now what. What is the next thing they need to ga…
I don't understand what you mean by "people like this OP". They don't say that they struggled with the hiring process or feel like a fraud. Rather they seem to be easily capable of the work. Actually I'm not sure what any of your post is about. Your friend doesn't like their job because they're hiring people to make facebook ads more effective?
The reply here is entirely in line with the poster; they didn’t say anything about feeling like a fraud, they said candidates in tech minmax career choices with no thought as to their actual purpose.
And yeah anyone remotely self-aware would feel disgusting working on adtech. It’s just that most tech workers do not think about such things.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
You spend around half of your wakeful hours at your job, if it's unfulfilling you're trading misery in addition to time for money.
That's why they pay you money for it. If it was fun, people would do it for free (see the FOSS world and its endless discussions on how to monetize).