By recognizing that electoral success doesn't actually translate into direct implementation of the voters' preferred agenda, as both the Trump and Obama administrations starkly demonstrate.
Ah, okay. And thank God it doesn't, as both the Trump and Obama administrations starkly demonstrate.
Yeah god forbid we get something like accountability for the financial sector after 2008, an actual end to our ruinous wars in the Middle East, any sort of investment in real infrastructure or re-industrialization in the U.S., or an actual draining of the swamp of corruption in DC. Thank heavens the power elite knows what's best for the voters better than they do.
Ah, okay. And thank God it doesn't, as both the Trump and Obama administrations starkly demonstrate.
Yeah god forbid we get something like accountability for the financial sector after 2008, an actual end to our ruinous wars in the Middle East, any sort of investment in real infrastructure or re-industrialization in the U.S., or an actual draining of the swamp of corruption in DC. Thank heavens the power elite knows what's best for the voters better than they do.
And by the same coin, thank God we didn't get a giant wall along the border, didn't kick out people from the United States who have lived here their entire rememberable lives, and didn't abolish social security, Medicare, and Medicaid.
The problem with expecting representative government to do "What the people want" is the people want a lot of things. Many of them incompatible. Some of them terrible ideas.
Yes but you're trying to make the trivial context and intent complicated and it isn't. Ed Norton plays a goatfucker. We are talking about goatfuckery. Dude yelling 'white power' in public? Actual goatfucking. But no, you say, he was commenting on the absurdity of the goatfucker accusation by fucking some goats. This is precisely the sort of thing the Rule of Goats is about.
I don’t think that’s what the rule of goats is about, but I appreciate your continued commenting. If your interpretation of the rule of goats is right, then it’s not very useful as it turns lots of people into goatfuckers. And when everyone is a goatfucker, fucking goats isn’t that bad any more.
The point of the 'rule' is that some things are so repugnant, there's no doing them 'ironically' or 'as commentary'. Hence the goats. If, when accused of goatfucking, you produce a goat and start fucking it, you are a goatfucker not a wry commentator on the baselessness of the accusation. If someone at a rally accuses you of racism (by, you know, association since you are rallying in support of someone with a long track record of racism) and you start shouting a virulently racist slogan, you're a racist. It's super-duper simple. Your interpretation is that yelling 'white power' is not actually racist because... some weird meta-thing. The entire purpose of the rule is to act as a terminating condition in otherwise unbounded meta-recursion.
Yeah god forbid we get something like accountability for the financial sector after 2008, an actual end to our ruinous wars in the Middle East, any sort of investment in real infrastructure or re-industrialization in the U.S., or an actual draining of the swamp of corruption in DC. Thank heavens the power elite knows what's best for the voters better than they do.
And by the same coin, thank God we didn't get a giant wall along the border, didn't kick out people from the United States who have lived here their entire rememberable lives, and didn't abolish social security, Medicare, and Medicaid. The problem with expecting representative government to do "What the people want" is the people want a lot of things. Many of them incompatible. Some of them terrible ideas.
Are you seriously under the impression that the impetus to cut entitlements is coming from the broad base of voters and not the ruling class? Trump campaigned on not cutting Social Security and Medicare.
And by the same coin, thank God we didn't get a giant wall along the border, didn't kick out people from the United States who have lived here their entire rememberable lives, and didn't abolish social security, Medicare, and Medicaid. The problem with expecting representative government to do "What the people want" is the people want a lot of things. Many of them incompatible. Some of them terrible ideas.
Are you seriously under the impression that the impetus to cut entitlements is coming from the broad base of voters and not the ruling class? Trump campaigned on not cutting Social Security and Medicare.
And then he tried, and the only thing that stopped him was Congress.
I do not know what to make of that, other than to suggest the "elite vs commoner" division may not be politically clear.
Are you seriously under the impression that the impetus to cut entitlements is coming from the broad base of voters and not the ruling class? Trump campaigned on not cutting Social Security and Medicare.
And then he tried, and the only thing that stopped him was Congress. I do not know what to make of that, other than to suggest the "elite vs commoner" division may not be politically clear.
>I do not know what to make of that, other than to suggest the "elite vs commoner" division may not be politically clear.
The mistake is believing "elites" comprise an organized group with a single motivating purpose and unified agenda exercising arbitrary power over the facade of government.
The problem with using terms like "elites" and "ruling class" when referring to American politics is that while they're a great basis for conspiracy theories and class warfare, the simple dimensionality of "left vs. right, elite vs. commoner" don't describe the actual complex dynamics of political reality, or the fact that checks and balances do sometimes work.
Where your argument fails is assuming that the average citizen isn't a capable judge of information. Edit: Furthermore, your argument also denies the average citizen their right to life by denying their capacity to decide their own quality of life. You assign the average citizen a capacity of a child.
It's not an argument; it's a thought experiment. From three posts up: """If that proposition ("The average person isn’t capable enough to judge information for themselves") were true...""" I'm interested in exploring the logical consequences of assuming that point, not arguing the truth of the point. I've generally heard quality-of-life listed under the inalienable right to pursuit of happiness, not the inalienable r…
You are aware of the conviction rate federal prosecutors have? They don't do anything until they have all the evidence they need for a conviction. And, if there's a group of people involved, they just seal the indictments until they have the evidence to convict all of them. There's a huge number of them involved. You can view the number of sealed federal indictments by state on the qmap.pub site. Be patient, the arre…
Can't wait to read Q posts in Feb 2021 about how "Biden winning the election was a necessary headfake, Trump is still secretly the POTUS actually, stay tuned, the indictments will be unsealed any day now."
I'm using "nonsense" in place of the word I choose not to, to keep the conversation polite. It doesn't indicate a lack of danger. Don't mistake the lack of force behind the word for its denotation. Belief in Protocols-of-Zion-originated global conspiracy theory is also nonsense.
> Belief in Protocols-of-Zion-originated global conspiracy theory is also nonsense.
Then disbelieve it out of existence. Just because someone believes nonsense, don't think it isn't dangerous.
They didn't make that mistake. They tried to shut down 8kun, repeatedly. So many times that 8kun was able to harden their services with the assistance of the DOD. I always wondered why the military was helping 8kun. [1] 1. https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1194054383488516096
The fact that I haven't heard of 8kun until right now is indicative of the utility of shutting these things down. If people have to go to a backwater site only known about by word-of-mouth, that's fine. Much better than broadcasting conspiracies through Twitter and FB. "There is a secret truth to the universe known only to this secret cabal in the back of this drinking parlor" is an old trope. Far more expected than…
> Better for Twitter to give it the axe, lest people confuse a badly-hashed-together conspiracy theory for actual truth.
QAnon just needs you to believe it a conspiracy theory a little longer.