Nubank acquires Cognitect • Hacker News Board

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by mark_l_watson » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 2:03 PM UTC

nojito wrote: post #9

stuarthalloway wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All Datomic consulting will continue.

It says this in your post. Cognitect will continue to offer professional services for Datomic customers, but will transition out of general consulting development. Does this mean your general consulting services are going away?

I friend of mine hired the principles at Cognitect to kick off a Clojure/Datomic project. They were like a force of nature, really, and very quickly got things set up and helped with architectural decisions, etc. I would imagine that they have helped hundreds of customers this way.

From the blog post, I think that the answer to your question is yes: they will stop general consulting services.

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by andrenth » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 2:07 PM UTC

Are there any technical posts from Nubank on how they manage such a large Clojure codebase (I guess it must be Clojure's largest user in the industry).

I'm looking for things like how to refactor safely in the absence of static typing, for example. Do they make use of spec?

I'm a big fan of static typing, but when using a dynamic language with immutable values and pattern matching, like Erlang, I don't miss it that much. Maybe with Clojure is the same?

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by nt591 » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 2:07 PM UTC

Nubank also acquired Plataformatec and the Elixir team. Very interested to watch how this plays out.

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by LandR » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 2:10 PM UTC

puredanger wrote: post #40

kamaal wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also lets hope they acquire cursive ide too and offer it for free. Clojure deserves an IDE for larger adoption.

Clojure has many free IDEs. Many people currently use Emacs w/CIDER, Atom w/Chlorine, Visual Studio w/Calva, Vim w/Fireplace, etc. For that matter, Cursive also has a free non-commercial edition.

ItelliJ w/Cursive too works great.

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by sidcool » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 2:14 PM UTC

I am genuinely curious. I haven't heard the name Cognitect before. I checked the website and they seem like another software consultancy firm. Anything I am missing? HN is very picky, so they must be doing something special.

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 2:16 PM UTC

sidcool wrote: post #65

I am genuinely curious. I haven't heard the name Cognitect before. I checked the website and they seem like another software consultancy firm. Anything I am missing? HN is very picky, so they must be doing something special.

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Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by hvis » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 2:16 PM UTC

sidcool wrote: post #65

I am genuinely curious. I haven't heard the name Cognitect before. I checked the website and they seem like another software consultancy firm. Anything I am missing? HN is very picky, so they must be doing something special.

This is the company that employs Rich Hickey and most of (all?) other maintainers of Clojure, the programming language.

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM UTC

clj_throwaway wrote: post #27

Throwaway account, for obvious reasons. This is great for nubank, but how is this supposed to work for other users of Clojure and Datomic? Who is really going to be interested in building on top of tech owned by a (new, unknown, regional) bank? Someone said that this is just like Amazon (who would build on top of tech from a bookstore??), but I hope it's obvious the two situations are very different. I expect that I'…

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Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by xmlblog » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 2:24 PM UTC

clj_throwaway wrote: post #27

Throwaway account, for obvious reasons. This is great for nubank, but how is this supposed to work for other users of Clojure and Datomic? Who is really going to be interested in building on top of tech owned by a (new, unknown, regional) bank? Someone said that this is just like Amazon (who would build on top of tech from a bookstore??), but I hope it's obvious the two situations are very different. I expect that I'…

> Who is really going to be interested in building on top of tech owned by a (new, unknown, regional) bank?

As opposed to building on top of tech "owned" by a small software consultancy? Perhaps I simply lack imagination, but how is this worse?

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by kgwgk » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 2:25 PM UTC

clj_throwaway wrote: post #37

mr_custard wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people don't seem to mind building on top of tech owned and developed by a telecommunications company - Erlang.

Yep, telecomms and banks, very similar dynamics and incentives /s

In what relevant way are they different? (I find that your comment has more sense without the /s tag)