Nubank acquires Cognitect • Hacker News Board

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by josefrichter » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:02 PM UTC

jyriand wrote: post #13

What is meant by "joining"? Did Nubank aquire Cognitec?

yes

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by bananaface » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:04 PM UTC

dustingetz wrote: post #14

The bull case here is if Nubank goes full Amazon and uses banking as a beachhead to create the next layer up from AWS, which Clojure/Datomic is amazingly perfect for – data all the things

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Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:05 PM UTC

michel_dib wrote: post #17

kgraves wrote: post #2

what does this mean for the future of clojure? I am a bit worried that a startup has acquired two companies that have extremely deep experience in specialised languages Platformatec (Elixir) and now Clojure (Cognitect)

Disclaimer: I am a Nubank employee, so there might be bias. Regarding the future of Clojure, I believe that not much will change actually. Before Clojure was sponsored by Cognitect and had Rich's / Stu's and Alex's stewardship and that's gonna continue to be the case just swapping the sponsoring company behind it. IMHO it's only on Nubank's best interest to have a strong community around Clojure and Datomic as well.…

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Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by hu3 » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:11 PM UTC

rafaelferreira wrote: post #4

Nubank’s co-founder and CTO offers his perspective: https://building.nubank.com.br/welcoming-cognitect-nubank/

> Clojure is and will remain open-source and Rich Hickey will continue to lead its efforts (as the BDFL).

This is great! Languages need strong laser-focused vision to avoid becoming a soup of ideas.

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by bhurlow » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:11 PM UTC

bananaface wrote: post #22

dustingetz wrote: post #14

The bull case here is if Nubank goes full Amazon and uses banking as a beachhead to create the next layer up from AWS, which Clojure/Datomic is amazingly perfect for – data all the things

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Is a "transaction log" not exactly the technical shape of a bank?

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by dgb23 » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:15 PM UTC

Nubank has a very inspiring story, both for engineers that are fans of Clojure & Datomic and for entrepreneurs that want to do "crazy" things like entering the bank sector.

This must be very validating and exciting for both Cognitect and Nubank.

I'm excited of the future impact on Clojure and Datomic. I get the impression that _all_[0] involved parties deeply care about what made them great so far.

[0] I'm getting that vibe based on some talks I saw of Lucas Cavalcanti and Edward Wible, available on Youtube.

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by clj_throwaway » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:16 PM UTC

Throwaway account, for obvious reasons.

This is great for nubank, but how is this supposed to work for other users of Clojure and Datomic? Who is really going to be interested in building on top of tech owned by a (new, unknown, regional) bank?

Someone said that this is just like Amazon (who would build on top of tech from a bookstore??), but I hope it's obvious the two situations are very different.

I expect that I'll have to be looking for a new job in a year's time :-(

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by mr_custard » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:18 PM UTC

clj_throwaway wrote: post #27

Throwaway account, for obvious reasons. This is great for nubank, but how is this supposed to work for other users of Clojure and Datomic? Who is really going to be interested in building on top of tech owned by a (new, unknown, regional) bank? Someone said that this is just like Amazon (who would build on top of tech from a bookstore??), but I hope it's obvious the two situations are very different. I expect that I'…

A lot of people don't seem to mind building on top of tech owned and developed by a telecommunications company - Erlang.

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by puredanger » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:18 PM UTC

dgb23 wrote: post #26

Nubank has a very inspiring story, both for engineers that are fans of Clojure & Datomic and for entrepreneurs that want to do "crazy" things like entering the bank sector. This must be very validating and exciting for both Cognitect and Nubank. I'm excited of the future impact on Clojure and Datomic. I get the impression that _all_[0] involved parties deeply care about what made them great so far. [0] I'm getting th…

Exactly right.

Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect

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Post by kamaal » Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:19 PM UTC

rel2thr wrote: post #12

Wonder if this makes datomic more likely to become free/open source Not sure what their license revenue is but hard to imagine it would be significant to a major fintech

Also lets hope they acquire cursive ide too and offer it for free.

Clojure deserves an IDE for larger adoption.