Who believes in Jio, if reliance owner was a good businessman, he's have dominated in many other countries.
The only reason he survives in India is because government is in his hands.
He has used this many times to harm competition.
India, Jio, and the Four Internets
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Re: India, Jio, and the Four Internets
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting. I read an article that mentioned it was the fastest teleco(?) in the world.
Is it? A few replies here are mentioning being happy with ~40 Mbps in bigger cities, meanwhile the last time I ran a speedtest in a busy CBD in Australia I got 600Mbps or so on 4G.
Yeah cause this is a developing country and what we got was a few kb/s prior to this. This is a massive leap for us
Re: India, Jio, and the Four Internets
#193What's more interesting than the topic discussed is the fact that Jio has been generating a large volume of chatter among prominent netizens, particularly in the tech space. I can point out to a slew of talks by Lew Later [1] in the past 15-20 days. Engadget [2]. Now Ben/Stratechery. It's nice to see India's part in the space that business ∩ tech ∩ people, apart from always being the focus of H1B related news. [1] ht…
Consultants exist for this.
I do not respect Reliance owner. If he was a good businessman, he would be have dominante more countries like US.
Imho, best Indian businessman is Mittal owner of Arcelor Mittal.
Re: India, Jio, and the Four Internets
#194Too much overconfidence in Reliance. This is the same firm well known for totally missing the boat on India's IT boom. It has done a great job deploying the network. Unmatched probably anywhere in the world. But that set of skills has nothing to do with charting out a vision that will work in future. That set of skills to rollout a network at huge scale quickly, existed in India because of cut throat competition in t…
The other firms were worse in vision, thus Jio had an edge. When I was using internet on a J2ME phone and Opera Mini, it cost INR 4 for 20MB airtime (2G!), which lasted 1 day. A GB of data cost somewhere around INR 250, and lasted a month. [1] After Jio, these days I get around 30GB of 4G data for INR 150. That's the kind of improvement that changed people's lives. Yeah the fake news is No. 1 issue in India, WhatsApp…
Opera mini used a proxy to compress & downsize content (including images) on the fly
Re: India, Jio, and the Four Internets
#195Jio was created with the premise that "data is the new oil" (its parent company Reliance Industries is huge on Oil & Gas). This is seen from the time the company was created and named. The way "Jio" is written officially is a mirror image of "Oil", alluding to the fact that the data collected (or usurped) by it is the most valuable thing. Jio also collects (or said it would collect) information about its users and th…
> Jio also collects (or said it would collect) information about its users and their habits through traffic analysis and deep packet inspection You have a source for this, especially regarding deep packet analysis? Just curious.
Re: India, Jio, and the Four Internets
#196Jio monopoly is a series of convenient regulations tailored to them over the last decade [0] . [0] https://caravanmagazine.in/reportage/government-helping-reli... I know the article is paywalled but it's the most comprehensive piece on the matter
Customer service matters , quality of service matters. Jio & other players are pretty good at this. I had an earlier comment on my harrowing experience with BSNL Broadband!. Just crying foul on regulations (fair to a certain point) , does not take the argument anywhere atleast for BSNL or MTNL. Reliance may be no saint when it comes to lobbying , but hey the most popular number that did a previous regime was lobbying and the popular "2G scam" when Jio did not exist
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yea but, who cares about Unicorns. Their investors. The rest of us would prefer smaller companies and more competition.
I hope you realize that in your definition of "us" it is just you and a small grp of your European friends. Rest of Europe are busy searching on Google and sharing photos on Instagram.
My American ass is getting pretty sick of the giants squishing everything.
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Jio’s offer is really good on paper, but it’s got to be one of the slowest 4G networks I’ve used when I tried it in February. Anyone know if this is because of a lack of competition (there’s effectively one other serious player left in the Indian telco market right now), or capacity constraints?
Interesting. I read an article that mentioned it was the fastest teleco(?) in the world.
'Fastest' growing teleco.
Re: India, Jio, and the Four Internets
#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting. I read an article that mentioned it was the fastest teleco(?) in the world.
Is it? A few replies here are mentioning being happy with ~40 Mbps in bigger cities, meanwhile the last time I ran a speedtest in a busy CBD in Australia I got 600Mbps or so on 4G.
I sure hope you're trolling, because as an American running an AT&T 4G phone in the heart of Silicon Valley, 40 Mbps is about what I normally get on a good day.
And I assure you I pay way more than $2/ month. In fact, AT&T's cheapest unlimited plan starts around $65 - and thats the advertised price, which is always before taxes and fees, so its realistically around ~ $80 monthly once all of those ludicrous surcharges are tacked on. Once again, this is for their cheapest plan.
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Jio actually broke the dominance of Airtel in India. Its a perfectly executed strategy IMO and capitalism at work. The company bled money to undercut Airtel and other companies to gain market share and they did it really well. Now they are the market leaders. I wish something like that happened in the US. It often feels like companies collude with pricing here.
The same is happening in India where pricing of major telecom is at par with other.
It's not collusion everytime price settles in a market. Prices are obviously dependent on costs and settle based on them.